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To think the de-horning of cattle in the New Forest to protect walkers is wrong?

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Paperbackwriter Sat 19-Oct-19 09:50:23

Alexa Have you been to the New Forest at all? Your comment seems very ignorant. People live there - lots of people. The cattle and the ponies roam freely. It's not just a matter of pompously stating that people should 'stay home and save fuel'. How bloody self-righteous.

AllTheLs Sat 19-Oct-19 09:31:25

Well as someone who loves to walk in forests, I would say keep the horns on the cows. How awful to even contemplate dehorning them.

We're turning into such a nanny state!

I'd advocate for rewilding, too, if it weren't for humans stupidly wanting to destroy wildlife.

Gonegirl Fri 18-Oct-19 17:34:32

Oh, shut the bloody things in sheds put a fence round them.

Wouldn't want pain inflicted on animals, but places like the New Forest are for people to enjoy. If anyone wants to keep animals like that, they should keep them away from people. Buy their own bit of land, and to hell with 'Commoners rights'.

Fennel Fri 18-Oct-19 17:24:33

ps to my post - I wouldn't agree to de-horning cattle. Or deer.

nightswimmer Fri 18-Oct-19 17:13:16

I live in the area quite surprised this has made the national press.

Labaik Fri 18-Oct-19 16:47:42

A friend of mine nearly died when one of her cows attacked her. And, of the three farms in our village two of the farmers wives have been seriously injured in the past by cattle. They are dangerous creatures.

Fennel Fri 18-Oct-19 16:45:44

I agree with Bluebell.
But I wonder about the wisdom of allowing public access to areas such as the New Forest. Which seems to be open to cattle and deer.
People and cattle aren't a good mix. Deer are usually more timid, but not in the rutting season.

Davidhs Fri 18-Oct-19 16:12:40

Dehorning is not going to make the New Forest safer separating walkers from cattle is the only way to do that. Walkers that take dogs through areas with cattle are really stupid and I have no sympathy, trampling is going to do much more damage than horns.

LondonGranny Fri 18-Oct-19 15:57:52

btw, antlers of deer and horns of cattle are completely different. Horn is mostly keratin (like hooves) but antlers are bone growing directly from the skull, so making a direct comparison with dehorning or disbudding is a false equivalence.

Granarchist Fri 18-Oct-19 15:57:40

cattle do not need horns to kill people - they 'bunt' you and then crush you. Stay away and keep dogs away - leave go of dogs if you are attacked by cattle. Suckler herds can be much more dangerous than bulls.

BlueBelle Fri 18-Oct-19 15:53:03

No leave them alone people need to adjust to the animal world when walking in their domaine
I wouldn’t walk anywhere near cattle that are not fenced in they are big beasts compared to a little person

LondonGranny Fri 18-Oct-19 15:49:37

It's difficult if there are public footpaths going through where cattle are. I can't help thinking about this poor woman. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-49775279

blondenana Fri 18-Oct-19 15:30:07

I agree, it's wrong why do people need to walk where these cattle are,keep away and keep dogs on leads anyway

grannysyb Fri 18-Oct-19 14:57:01

We have deer in Bushy Park. At the moment it is the rutting season and the stags can get quite aggressive, going for dogs and sometimes people. A car was recently attacked by a stag in Richmond Park. No one suggests that they should have their antlers off. People just need to use their common sense and not get too near the cows.

Alexa Fri 18-Oct-19 14:08:19

PS tourists should stay at home and save fuel.

Alexa Fri 18-Oct-19 14:07:34

I agree horns on cattle are decorative. But walkers' safety in more important. There aren't any elephants in the New Forrest as far as I know .

merlotgran Fri 18-Oct-19 14:04:17

It's part of their character, Alexa. Would you agree with removing tusks from elephants to protect tourists on safari?

Alexa Fri 18-Oct-19 13:57:34

As long as each animal gets a local anaesthetic

merlotgran Fri 18-Oct-19 13:55:01

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/17/cattle-new-forest-could-have-horns-removed-prevent-attacking/

As the article points out, horns are often removed for husbandry reasons but I think anyone walking in areas where animals graze should take responsibility for their own safety and keep their dogs under control.

What do you think?