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To feel the BBC should be impartial?

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Persistentdonor Mon 11-Nov-19 10:07:38

Yesterday, live footage from the Cenotaph showed our PM looking less than smart, stumbling around and presenting his wreath upside down, while H.M. Queen watched from a balcony.
Today, on BBC morning news, the 2019 Cenotaph ceremony was reported, showing a clip from 2106 of Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, looking smart in a suit, and watched by H.M. Queen standing at street level.

I am horrified to know that the BBC is manipulating public opinion in this way. I thought the BBC is supposed to be fair and impartial. Clearly I was wrong. angry

Callistemon Fri 15-Nov-19 19:15:33

hmm

That is very strange varian

varian Fri 15-Nov-19 19:09:21

We are in a general election campaign yet this week the Brexit Broadcasting Corplratjon has no LibDem spokesperson on Questton Time or Any Questions

Callistemon Fri 15-Nov-19 17:28:22

Do you never hear someone speaking publicly who has a piercing voice which you just have to turn off, jura?
I think some politicians have been known to have voice coaching.

Useful when teaching easily distracted Y5/6 boys perhaps but that piercing tone can actually hurt sensitive eardrums.

jura2 Thu 14-Nov-19 21:45:15

5/6 year old pupils tend to like or not like, and do well or not well - depending on the personality of the teacher- and then

they grow up and realise there is a lot more at stake than that.

Callistemon Thu 14-Nov-19 20:27:05

I am finding Jo Swinson difficult to listen to varian so I'm not picking up her message.
She is making me feel like a year 5/6 pupil.

varian Thu 14-Nov-19 20:21:42

twitter.com/LibDems/status/1195061839056359425?s=09

varian Thu 14-Nov-19 20:00:51

There is not just a choice between two extremes. The best possible choics for everyone, especially centrists and remainers, is to vote Liberal Democrat

Pantglas2 Wed 13-Nov-19 20:15:27

I think you can disagree with a political stance jura2 without going all out Tora! Tora! Tora!

Sometimes simply stating the case would be more persuasive. On a personal level I respond better to reasoned, balanced argument giving pros and cons, than I do to persistent, dogmatic, one sided bias.

The less is more approach is something both sides need to adopt to persuade us centrists of their cause, and let’s face it, we will have to vote one way or another.....

jura2 Wed 13-Nov-19 20:02:46

And for very understandable reasons.

Chestnut Wed 13-Nov-19 13:50:04

This choosing a victim and attack, attack, attack, is very distasteful in my opinion.
There's a lot of that on these boards. Boris and Farage get slaughtered on an hourly basis!

Pantglas2 Wed 13-Nov-19 06:19:54

It’s not just recently with BJ and Corbyn though - go further back to the eighties and you’ll find Michael Foot was given the same treatment.

There may be others I’m not aware of as I was out of the country for some of that time. This choosing a victim and attack, attack, attack, is very distasteful in my opinion.

suziewoozie Tue 12-Nov-19 23:03:10

For me it’s not BJ’s scruffy appearance, it’s not his stepping out to early to place his wreath and having to retreat, it’s not his laying it upside down - it’s the sheer hypocrisy of people who say they didn’t notice or it didn’t matter who every year have piled in on JC for the wrong kind of coat, the wrong size of poppy, holding his wreath in the wrong position.

varian Tue 12-Nov-19 18:42:10

The Brexit Broadcasting Corporation is letting us all down

lemongrove Tue 12-Nov-19 18:33:54

He didn’t need ‘help’ though, that’s what is so daft ( if it was done on purpose) as nobody cares about the wreath laying being slightly wrong ( I hadn’t noticed on tv anyway.)

jura2 Tue 12-Nov-19 18:30:30

yes, mistakes happens - but this was not a mistake.

And yes, I certainly hope that it will not help, and will actually make some people think about who, and why - is trying to protect him and his lies.

I'd tend to agree about the reef - I think the strong reaction is about the double standards and hypocrisy- after all the criticism by many, oncluding here ... about Corbyn's choice of coat last year.

lemongrove Tue 12-Nov-19 18:20:22

Not that laying a wreath the wrong way round matters two jots anyway.

lemongrove Tue 12-Nov-19 18:19:27

Mistakes happen * jura* although if it wasn’t I don’t see how it helped Johnson in any way .

jura2 Tue 12-Nov-19 18:16:06

As usual, those who do not have practical knowhow or knowledge - do reply on experts who do. A large number of people with the relevant experience have come forward to explain that this cannot have been a mistake. I know some don't like experts these days- but I think they are very useful and should be listened to.

The verdict is clear as a bell.

lemongrove Tue 12-Nov-19 18:12:02

I would suggest that none in this thread have the practical knowhow or knowledge of BBC editing or showing clips etc
So have really to accept their explanation of the event and what occurred/ what staff did, odd as it appears.

lemongrove Tue 12-Nov-19 18:08:35

Gosh Suziewoozie ......could you be any more patronising or sarcastic......am guessing you have had plenty of practise.

Callistemon Tue 12-Nov-19 18:03:18

It's very odd as the wreath was totally different - didn't they think that people would know the difference between the wreaths that the PM etc lay and the Foreign Secretary lays?

suziewoozie Tue 12-Nov-19 18:00:25

The footage of JC was the correct footage btw - gosh lemon anyone would think you hadn’t seen it ...

suziewoozie Tue 12-Nov-19 17:58:56

There are several mixed up threads now involving Corbyn, Cenotaph, Festival of Remembrance, White Poppies BBC etc - a bit confusing

suziewoozie Tue 12-Nov-19 17:57:06

The point that those of us who have seen it and read RB’s explanation ( which has been challenged) is that it’s a continuous clip which has had the 2016 section expertly edited in. If it had been the wrong freestanding clip it might have been more understandable. But then you haven’t seen it so it s probably hard for you to understand. Never mind.

Gonegirl Tue 12-Nov-19 17:56:09

Corbyn