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To feel the BBC should be impartial?

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Persistentdonor Mon 11-Nov-19 10:07:38

Yesterday, live footage from the Cenotaph showed our PM looking less than smart, stumbling around and presenting his wreath upside down, while H.M. Queen watched from a balcony.
Today, on BBC morning news, the 2019 Cenotaph ceremony was reported, showing a clip from 2106 of Boris Johnson as Foreign Secretary, looking smart in a suit, and watched by H.M. Queen standing at street level.

I am horrified to know that the BBC is manipulating public opinion in this way. I thought the BBC is supposed to be fair and impartial. Clearly I was wrong. angry

Gonegirl Tue 12-Nov-19 12:58:53

The BBC were probably keeping on the right side of the government to protect the licence fee.

So funny to choose a clip with a completely different wreath though. grin

Whitewavemark2 Tue 12-Nov-19 12:53:23

kitty what intelligent and sensible children you have brought up ?

jura2 Tue 12-Nov-19 12:52:25

It is- good. Thanks.

jura2 Tue 12-Nov-19 12:51:42

just testing - as it seems this thread never appears on the 'latest' board- but has to be specifically searched for.

jura2 Tue 12-Nov-19 12:50:31

What do you think?

jura2 Tue 12-Nov-19 12:15:51

AllTheLs - well, in this case, it is crystal clear. So was the reporting of Corbyn's anorak last year.

We pay a large licence fee for the privilege of having a neutral, fair BBC. I therefore feel we need to know if the BBC chose to clearly manipulate coverage- or if they were instructed to do so, and by whom? Do you not agree?

ayse Tue 12-Nov-19 11:04:47

Yes, as someone stated in another post the winners write history. It seems this applies equally to current affairs etc.

spabbygirl Tue 12-Nov-19 11:01:26

The BBC has an awful right wing bias, anti-semitism in the Labour Party is said to be rife and always getting coverage, but similar concerns about islamophobia in the Tory party gets limited coverage on the BBC and most major newspapers. So much of our media is owned by billionaires who really don't want Corbyn in & George Osbourne's best man was in the BBC politics dept that it is no wonder they reflect the 'needs' of the ruling class

AllTheLs Tue 12-Nov-19 10:59:29

It's funny - my friend and I have totally opposing views on whether the BBC is right- or left-biased. And we both have 'evidence' to back up our claims.

Nonnie Tue 12-Nov-19 10:55:13

Calendargirl Tue 12-Nov-19 10:33:28 but do they know what it means? They want it all to stop, I think we all do but are they aware that it will go on for years and years if we carry on with it? Do they know that if Torys win the election it is most likely talks will fail within the timeline and we will leave with no deal? Are they aware of the cost of that? I am very suspicious about the reason for not giving an impact assessment, seems they find it very easy to assess the impact of another party gaining power!

Callistemon Tue 12-Nov-19 10:54:43

Actually, I think your last paragraph probably sums up the views of many of us, ayse!

ayse Tue 12-Nov-19 10:50:22

No organisation nor individual is impartial. Independence from political interference is the best that can be hoped for.

The general public generally seem far better at expressing their honest opinions, even if one does not agree with them.

Totally p****d off with the whole lot

Callistemon Tue 12-Nov-19 10:39:28

I have heard that too, in RL, Calendargirl, both from those who voted leave and remain.
Most have said "Just get on with it now, preferably with a deal".

A few have said "we should just forget it"!
But it's not that easy.

Calendargirl Tue 12-Nov-19 10:33:28

Nonnie

Actually I do hear many people say ‘Get Brexit done’, not on tv, just in general conversation, meaning the politicians need to do it.

Callistemon Tue 12-Nov-19 10:28:59

I've heard both left wing and right wing supporters complain that the BBC is biased, so must conclude that they are veer from one to the other!

Not having seen the actual ceremony or the subsequent old footage, I shouldn't comment on that.

toscalily Tue 12-Nov-19 09:51:09

Ah! but would it be "The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth" grin

Gonegirl Tue 12-Nov-19 09:43:56

Wonder what Boris thinks about it. Think he should make a statement. grin

toscalily Tue 12-Nov-19 09:40:58

Seriously, does anyone still believe the BBC is not biased, one way or another? Does not have to be "fake news" just news from another era!

jura2 Tue 12-Nov-19 09:12:56

There is no way that was a mistake.

The very important questions now is- did the BBC choose to replace footage to make Johnson look better

or were they instructed to do so and by whom?

That must be investigated independently- as it is paramount that the BBC is shown to be impartial and especially not directly manipulated by those in power. Lest we want to end up like NK.

Persistentdonor Tue 12-Nov-19 08:27:00

Apparently it is quite a convoluted process to retrieve old footage from the archives, so it can't have been an easy "mistake" to make.

Yehbutnobut Mon 11-Nov-19 13:12:25

Yes, I’m getting a bit sick of their right wing coverage

Hetty58 Mon 11-Nov-19 13:00:33

I have never found them impartial, though they pretend to be - so don't expect them to start any time soon!

sodapop Mon 11-Nov-19 12:53:21

The BBC are not impartial in any programme. They have an axe to grind all the time and have the cheek to charge for the privilege.

Nonnie Mon 11-Nov-19 12:10:21

I agree that it was totally wrong and does seem manipulative. They look to me to be generally impartial about the election news but I felt they were very right wing about Brexit. Bearing in mind how close the vote was they interviewed far more leave voters than remain for the last 3 years. I haven't heard anyone say 'get Brexit done' in real life, only on TV.

suziewoozie Mon 11-Nov-19 12:08:35

Did they actually apologise or just say it was a mistake?