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Sorry......more mask talk

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Daftbag1 Tue 13-Oct-20 19:27:05

Before starting, I should say that I have both hidden and obvious disabilities and wear a lanyard, not to explain not wearing a mask (I've been using a mask for months), but to alert staff that I may need help. I also suffer from long term and serious mental illness including severe anxiety.

Since the requirement for mask wearing, anyone who doesn't fancy wearing a mask, seems to have acquired a lanyard . AIBU to feel that EVERYONE except perhaps those on oxygen therapy, should be required tsome use some form of face covering, if they are really unable to use a mask, use a cotton scarf, or arrange for home delivery, but don't put others at risk.

LinkyPinky Wed 14-Oct-20 14:25:03

For stacking up the layers, may I recommend panty-liners? They’re perfect. Just stick them on inside whatever sort of mask you’re wearing. This is especially useful for snoods, which are not really effective otherwise.

Grannynannywanny Wed 14-Oct-20 14:21:42

TwinLolly I think I saw just about everyone of those mask positions this morning while shopping!

ShazzaKanazza Wed 14-Oct-20 13:42:40

My SIL has a lanyard she wears with pride because she finds wearing a mask claustrophobic and plus she doesn’t believe Covid exists!!!! Anyway my daughter is a midwife and wears a mask for most of a 14 hour shift and she has asthma.
I was in a central Manchester shopping centre and I was pushing my granddaughter and the security guard gruffly pointed me to the one way. But the amount of burly men strolling past him without masks was shocking. I thought well what’s the point of you but you can pick on a granny lol. Sorry rant over! Needed to get that off my chest lol

Jess20 Wed 14-Oct-20 13:02:20

My son only has about 21-24% of his lung function due to cystic fibrosis. He says that wearing a mask is unpleasent but does not reduce his oxygen saturation levels (he's tested it repeatedly!). He always wears a mask if other people are about, including outdoors. He hardly ever sees anyone but us indoors as he's never stopped shielding. We also wear masks outside the home where there are other people around. I accept a few people may have had some sort of unresolved/untreated psychological trauma and could find wearing a mask impossible but they are few and far between and I don't know why almost everyone can't just get on and wear a damn mask!

TwinLolly Wed 14-Oct-20 12:41:26

For fun but serious.

JANH Wed 14-Oct-20 12:20:26

Unfortunately, I suffer with severe asthma and part of my diaphragm doesn’t work, so I am always wheezing and short of breath. I find in this weather, colder, that the mask protects me from the cold air and that I can actually breath easier behind the mask. I feel that alot of people are just taking advantage of a lanyard, they were very easy to obtain with no checks that I know of. However there are also the genuine people who get abused. If the lanyards had only been issued by GP surgeries or the like, perhaps only the genuine would have received them.

JenniferEccles Wed 14-Oct-20 12:16:32

I think it will be better in the Winter when we can wear a scarf and just pull it up when necessary.

Daftbag1 Wed 14-Oct-20 12:01:31

People could turn mask wearing into a plus, I love my masks, they hide all my wrinkles, my moustache and chin whiskers, not to mention my extra chins!

Daftbag1 Wed 14-Oct-20 11:50:28

As for social distancing......don't get me started.......

Lanyards can be obtained by simply walking into one of the large supermarkets and requesting one they are free and you can not be asked any questions about your disability. Alternatively have a look for the sunflower lanyard site on line.

TerriBull Wed 14-Oct-20 11:48:54

I sympathise with anyone who has a condition that precludes them from wearing a mask, I imagine there are accusatory stares from some. Sainsburys do put out loud recorded messages to that effect, pointing out that some people have conditions which exempts them from mask wearing to raise awareness of that.

I was all for masks when the lockdown started, I don't enjoy wearing mine, it's just something we have to live with for a while it seems. Like others, I have to wear glasses for print, sell by dates etc., so it's a constant whipping them off and on in supermarkets and the like otherwise they get so misted up.

I had to pick up something from our nearby John Lewis earlier this week, I thought I'd have a browse, something I haven't done for a while, after a short time, I decided I'd had enough, shopping isn't an enjoyable experience with the mask, quite hot and bothered after a while. We had to cancel a couple of flights this year, factoring in time at airport and then on plane with masks, I'm glad we did.

lizzypopbottle Wed 14-Oct-20 11:44:15

I make sure I'm not near anyone when I go Ahhh!

Daftbag1 Wed 14-Oct-20 11:43:36

One option for visor wearers is to effectively make the visor into a hood, like those worn by bee keepers.
You can purchase visors which offer a closed fit at the top, if you then tape two layers of fabric around the sides and around the base so that this fabric could then tie at the back of the mechanics would act as a seal.
Or simply make a pull over hood, that way nothing causing the feeling of not being able to breathe

lizzypopbottle Wed 14-Oct-20 11:39:02

I tend to shop at quiet times. I wear my mask and I'm happy to do so but I wrench it off when I get outside and exclaim, "Ahhh!" A lot of older people round here wear them under the nose. I think posters and announcements should stress the correct wearing of masks.

On a lighter note, the regular announcement over the tannoy in Sainsbury's begins, "Please help stop the spread by wearing a face covering..." and I can't help imagining a 'colleague' running round after a rogue jar of Nutella shouting, "Stop the spread!"

aggie Wed 14-Oct-20 11:32:25

I wear glasses and hearing aids and wouldn’t go out without a mask . They do tangle in both , but I wait till I’m sitting back in the car before I take it off and have learnt to make sure my glasses are on top of the mask before I get out of the car so they don’t fog up as much
Surely it’s better to put up with the mask as we have been advised , if people wear them under the nose or not at all it’s hard to calculate the effectiveness of the masks
My Daughter has just suggested the ones that tie round your head , rather than the elastic ones ?

SillyNanny321 Wed 14-Oct-20 11:21:54

Hate going out as I have to wear a mask obviously will not go to a shop or on a bus without. Have to decide whether to go without glasses & miss the bus racing down the road or to go out & seem ignorant when someone speaks as I have not worn my hearing aids. Hate trying to see where the aids have rolled to then get them back in round glasses & mask. Decisions decisions so hardly go out now. Stay home & climb the walls. Hope this is all over soon!

Witzend Wed 14-Oct-20 11:12:31

Bamm, if your DiL has been diagnosed, surely she could be provided with a lanyard? I should imagine that it’s virtually impossible to get someone with dementia to wear a mask - or to keep it on for any length of time - given that they’ll almost certainly be unable to remember why it’s needed.

Grannynannywanny Wed 14-Oct-20 11:01:39

Calliestmon I agree. It’s clear passing high street hairdressers and beauticians that a visor is often their chosen protection. I wouldn’t like to have my hair done by someone wearing a visor which is funnelling the wearer’s (possibly virus laden) breath directly onto me. Science says masks should be worn for mutual protection and anyone who wants to wear a visor should also wear a mask. That’s why NHS staff wear both.

winterwhite Wed 14-Oct-20 10:51:26

I would like to see more evidence that mask-wearing makes a worth-while difference to the transmission of infection to compensate for the limitations in getting on with life.
For glasses-wearers in particular they are fiddly to put on outside, with great risk of dropping glasses in the process. Too easy to pull the mask too high up the nose and obscure vision, as I do all the time ('Mask-wearing gran falls in gutter', that will be me).
Of course I comply, but resentfully, and feeling that if more cabinet ministers wore glasses 24/7 we might see a changed tune, and more sympathy with this problem. ?

TillyWhiz Wed 14-Oct-20 10:46:11

If we are to defeat this virus then we do need to wear masks. I have friends working in retail who are obliged to wear masks all day despite having respiratory conditions. If they can do it so can we. I find it hard work trying to shop with one on so I try not to. I do online grocery shopping and buy online when I can. Those with serious conditions which means they can't wear masks then should really carry on avoiding shopping areas. We've done it once before, we can do it again. Let's be good this winter and hopefully we will defeat it. And don't chuck those disposables on the ground - or even choose to wear them - landfill will be horrendous. There's loads of community mask trees around.

Quizzer Wed 14-Oct-20 10:43:39

My DIL has a severe lung problem and therefore has the right not to were a mask. She has a lanyard, but is so fed up with abuse for not wearing one that she wears a lightweight one anyway. If the breathing gets bad she just leaves the building.

nipsmum Wed 14-Oct-20 10:43:12

When we were required to wear masks I made cotton double thickness masks on my sewing machine. I have asthma, wear glasses and have no problem wearing masks. No more breathless than usual and no misting of specs.

MayBee70 Wed 14-Oct-20 10:42:38

They reduce the viral load so if you do catch the virus you probably won’t get it as bad. The mask manufacturers have to put a disclaimer because if they didn’t people who caught the virus could sue them.

Barmeyoldbat Wed 14-Oct-20 10:39:58

I have a lung disease and always wear a mask when I leave the house, can't always wear my glasses as well but I get along. In Lidl the other day I was waiting at the checkout with a young woman in front of me, wearing a mask and two men in front not wearing a mask, they also kept leaving to pick up more shopping. I called across to the one of the men where is your mask his answer was he wasn't going to wear one. So the woman in front called for the manager and to cut a long story short both had to leave the shop without their shopping. They were also told to never come in again without a mask. To me it was a good result with a shop taking care of its customers.
I believe that we should all have to wear masks outside as well inside.

Callistemon Wed 14-Oct-20 10:39:28

Hairdressers are advised to wear both
That why I haven't been - I heard tales, from someone who went to our hairdressers, of visors, no masks and tipping the visor up so as to be able to see properly.

Growing0ldDisgracefully Wed 14-Oct-20 10:36:20

Actually I was looking (well being bombarded by adverts) for masks, and even those from reputable companies with disposable filters in them, all had disclaimers saying that they were not a protection against the virus. So begs the question of why we are having to use them, if they don't offer protection. If they don't protect the wearer, then they also don't protect those around them. I hasten to add I do wear a face covering, a neck tube well ruched up together into several layers, in shops but absolutely hate it. I find them so distracting that I even forgot to take my shopping with me yesterday, I was in such a rush to get out of the shop and get my face uncovered! And don't get me started about the added cost to the environment of all the disposable masks, especially those just discarded on the ground, trees, other people's gardens, wildlife getting caught up in them, etc. Rant over, sorry.