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granbabies123 Sun 13-Jun-21 13:59:05

Hi I'm sure this will have been asked before but I haven't seen it and need an answer.
I'm 64 this year so was one of those who missed their pension at 60 but what I'm most annoyed at is not getting my bus pass. I do not drive.
I understand Wales and Scotland (still not fair) getting it at 60 with different rules but my question is I live in England ,London is in England so why have they got free transport at 60 but not the rest of us. Very unjust. Can anyone explain.

keriku Mon 14-Jun-21 14:35:39

I am in Scotland, so was given a bus pass last December when I turned 60. I then broke my foot at the new year so couldn’t go anywhere! We had planned to use it quite a lot but we are still wary of going very far. It’s a great system though and I’m extremely grateful for it. Prior to the national scheme, our local council was one of the first to implement bus passes, I know as I used to work for the council and take the photos! Folk used to moan back then as you had to pay a small amount at peak times.

danceagran Mon 14-Jun-21 14:33:41

I'm 74 and live in a rural area. I've had a bus pass since I turned 60. Only problem is - bus services have gradually been cut until there is no bus service left here at all.

4allweknow Mon 14-Jun-21 14:25:29

I have a bus pass but no access to buses unless I drive two miles and pay for parking and that is for local area only. If I want to go out of area I ha e to drive 18 miles for a bus don't need to pay for parking there.

Dottynan Mon 14-Jun-21 13:30:21

In England a man can get the bus pass for free travel when reaching the female state pension age. They kept that one quiet

Coggers94 Mon 14-Jun-21 13:30:19

In London you can apply for a free 60+ oyster card,even if you are still working. You can apply online.

GardenofEngland Mon 14-Jun-21 13:23:12

I got mine in April 66yrs. I do drive but I have made so much use of it. I don't understand people who 'don't do public transport' like many of my friends. Since getting my pass I have even ventured a coastal ride from Folkestone to Rye it was nearly 2 hours of great scenery. Husband who is 76 has used his pass more in 2 months than the last 16 years!

Mazz21 Mon 14-Jun-21 13:09:41

I live in a Dorset village and had to wait till nearly 66 to get mine. This was immediately before the first lockdown. We have one bus that also covers the school runs, doesn’t exist after 6pm or at weekends so I’ve used the pass once. On that occasion there was a car broken down which closed the road so I was late getting to where I needed to be so just stayed in the bus and came straight back home! grin

Riggie Mon 14-Jun-21 12:34:09

Diffeferent councils have different rules. Here it covers buses (anywhere) and some local trains, a relative a couple of miles over the county border doesnt get the trains.

moggie57 Mon 14-Jun-21 12:10:25

If you are registered disabled or having a hearing problem you can apply for a disabled freedom pass

Annaram1 Mon 14-Jun-21 12:08:38

I am in Devon now, but lived in Dorset when I was 60. I got the bus pass and merrily used it all over Dorset. We visited London once and it was accepted there too. I haven't used mine now for over a year.

Paperbackwriter Mon 14-Jun-21 12:05:52

Blossoming

OK,Mr. Google reveals the following info. Freedom pass rules are the same for London as elsewhere, currently you have to be 66 or over (state pension age for women). However, TFL have a scheme where those 60+ living in a London borough get a free Oystercard valid on TFL journeys. I hope that answers your question granbabies123

This is exactly right. Strangely - as i'm no fan of his - we have Boris to thank for the 60+ London Oyster card. When he was mayor he decided it was unjust that suddenly everyone had to wait another few years when already many over 60s already had a Freedom pass. I LOVE mine - looking forward to using it again. It's been sitting in my bag without an outing for the past 15 months now.

Chardy Mon 14-Jun-21 12:02:01

Witzend

A bit off topic, but in areas with very good public transport, like ours (SW London) I’m sure bus passes (or our Freedom Passes) keep a lot of cars off the road, so are environmentally friendly.

I certainly use my car a lot less since having my FP - makes no sense to have to pay to park if I can go for free. As a bonus, the walk to and from bus stops probably adds around 1000 steps per trip.
I only take the car for shopping now, if I’m doing a really big food shop, e.g. pre Christmas. Otherwise it’s usually little and often, walk there (downhill!) get the bus back.

I was going to make a similar point witzend. If the county council's environment pot of money is subsidising the bus pass pot, they can have a lower age.

And if an area has a significantly higher proportion of older folk, that again may have to be factored in.

Ann29 Mon 14-Jun-21 11:58:54

I live in Merseyside and if you are 60 you get 0free bus and train travel in the Merseyside area.

Twig14 Mon 14-Jun-21 11:42:29

I agree with ExD about unfair care home charges as she quite rightly said the English are paying into the same pot but not getting the same out of it. My elderly parents worked hard all their lives n never claimed a thing. Now their savings and home will be used to pay for care home fees!!! Others never saved n don’t pay anything!!!’

Beanie654321 Mon 14-Jun-21 11:37:43

We are the same I was looking forward to my bus pass but not for us. Apparently it depends on the council. I live in Warrington and have to wait until I get my pension but those living in Halton get theirs at 60 years. I feel it is so unfair too.

Kamiso Mon 14-Jun-21 11:36:22

I am in the Midlands and pretty sure I got my pass at 60.

Mine’s for buses, trains within the Midlands, and trams which have been withdrawn temporarily because of some kind of fault. We can’t travel til after 9.30.

Jillsewing Mon 14-Jun-21 11:28:01

I live in Wales but I am English I understand why you think this is unfair, I would swop this for better medical attention we often wait longer as we don’t have a hospital and then When you see a doctor oh no you can’t have that you live in Wales. I suppose it’s swings and roundabouts. I waited twice the length of time for my knee replacement.

jaylucy Mon 14-Jun-21 11:26:01

Me too! The one good thing about turning 60 was the thought of getting a bus pass!
I don't drive and have used buses to get to and from the nearest towns since I was 11 when I passed the 11 plus for grammer school then started paying fares from 17 when I got my first job.
Think I have spent nearly enough to buy my own bus!
It's currently costing me £8.20 for a return ticket for a 20 mile round trip! Where I live, there is one company doing the town travel and another the rural so if I have a hospital appointment, it will cost at least £10 as you can't use the tickets from one company on the other company's buses!
That bus pass can't be handed to me soon enough!

FarNorth Mon 14-Jun-21 11:18:43

we English are paying into the same pot but not getting the same back out of it.

It's a decision made by the government of the country you live in, on how to use the funds available to them.
So take it up with your MP.

Worthingpatchworker Mon 14-Jun-21 11:14:47

I got my old age bus pass this weekend. Yes I have received free prescriptions since age 60 and I get free eye tests every two years.
The disabled persons bus pass is not linked to age.
As my state pension has been delayed by six years I am to try to receive all the older person benefits I am able to.
Like many others born in 50s, I’ve worked long and hard. Time to enjoy it.

AlysonH Mon 14-Jun-21 11:13:36

You are lucky to have busses - a bus pass in my village in Cumbria would be no use at all...

Witzend Mon 14-Jun-21 10:39:09

A bit off topic, but in areas with very good public transport, like ours (SW London) I’m sure bus passes (or our Freedom Passes) keep a lot of cars off the road, so are environmentally friendly.

I certainly use my car a lot less since having my FP - makes no sense to have to pay to park if I can go for free. As a bonus, the walk to and from bus stops probably adds around 1000 steps per trip.
I only take the car for shopping now, if I’m doing a really big food shop, e.g. pre Christmas. Otherwise it’s usually little and often, walk there (downhill!) get the bus back.

Dryginger Mon 14-Jun-21 06:30:58

Yes I got mine in Jan when I was 66 this year. I thought I would get it at 60 but My local council said only when im pension age because I dont live in London. My sister who does live in London and is 3 years younger than me got hers at 60. I have always thought it was unfair (not my sister getting it) and because I worked in London (travelled in) it would have saved me quite a bit in fares. Got mine now but I do not really use it much because I can walk into town. London seems to get everything! Oh and I was born in london and lived there till I was in my 50s. Would never go back!

Doodledog Mon 14-Jun-21 06:11:11

How do you define ‘need’, ValerieF?

Calendargirl, I understand that life expectancy has fallen under the Tories, and is now lower than for my mother’s generation.

ValerieF Sun 13-Jun-21 19:58:55

Different local authorities, different rules. Not much you can do about it. Ask yourself if you really “need” this or just feel an entitlement to it? Many people get a bus pass but don’t actually need it.

As someone said, in Merseyside, you will get a local bus pass at 60 until you reach state pension age! Then you get a national one. To me it is a perk and not an entitlement.