To wish she would be the same with us?

notgran, it seems that TopsyAndTim lives in a very strange world indeed!

I have read all this thread and a couple of others from TopsyAndTim, surely it is a wind up? I am wondering if it is a Task from the TV Series Taskmaster or something else of a similar practical joke variety. Very entertaining, thank you T&T.

In my view, there should be mutual respect (And not the "Tugging the forelock" kind. One can, and should, have good relations and friendly relations with those who who work for you.
If I met folk who who nominally worked for me (Expected to carry out my wishes, (Although not responsible in the strict chain of command) out of work, they were treated as any other person with whom I had a good relationship.
If friendship blossoms, all well and good, as long as it does not blur the boundaries.
In this case, it sounds as if the employee wants to stay on their side of the boundary, form the present at least, and that should be respected.

You wouldn't expect to spend the rest of your life with someone who had refused to get engaged.

I once worked for an organization where there was a strong element of socializing with bosses because we organized a lot of international conferences. Meals out etc are part of the programme of entertaining visitors. I went to about 50% of the functions but invented a boyfriend so I had an excuse to say no part of the time.

Like many people I prefer to keep work and private life as separate as possible.

I would not expect to invite a cleaner/housekeeper out unless it was a very special occasion in which we had a mutual interest. This is why you offer them a bonus at christmas and holiday time so they can enjoy themselves as they wish.

I've had a cleaner and live in mother's help while I was running a business with OH working away for months at a time. With 4 children on my own and working long hours it helped immensely and I could afford it. When I sold the business they left as I was quite capable and energetic enough to manage. People's circumstances sometimes mean employing help is necessary.
But although I was friendly and approachable I never thought of socialising with them outside of working hours. OP it's a business arrangement not friends on tap.

Crikey Franbern, you deserve a medal!

harrigran

It is not that unusual to have staff, a neighbour employed a housekeeper, nanny, cleaner and gardner because she had four children quite close together. This is just a street of semi detached houses not country piles.

Wow!! assume none of them 'lived in'.
Well, my first two children were eleven months apart, following a couple of years later by No. 3 and then two years on by 4 & 5 together. The youngest joined the family at eleven months 18 months later. So, six of them with just seven years between them.
Yes, I was a full-time Mother. No, never had a Nanny for them (that was me), no cleaner/keeper , house was usually in a too much of a mess for anyone to try to sort - toys, etc. everywhere - bit of dust did none of us any harm - great times. Garden was just the outdoors play area. Meals were all cooked from scratch.

Would say that at one time in my life I gave in to persuasion by a very close friend and went to work for her in her business (not at her home). It all ended so badly - and we lost that friendship. Hard to combine friendships with employment in my experience.

I have had a live in domestic helper (overseas) and now have a cleaner who comes weekly. I've had a good relationship with both but even with our live in the relationship never extended to a personal friendship.

What did the housekeeper do harrigran, given there was also a cleaner?

It is not that unusual to have staff, a neighbour employed a housekeeper, nanny, cleaner and gardner because she had four children quite close together. This is just a street of semi detached houses not country piles.

Sago

This is exactly why our butler got the heave ho!

@Sago
I had the same trouble!! Butlers, housekeepers, gardeners - just can't get the staff, ha ha

I was hired to housekeep for a lovely family but never socialised and would not have wanted to. I did my job and took my pay. No more no less

Blossoming l think you also need to take on board your own comment

MissAdventure

You think she'd have the decency to come back and have the piss taken a bit more.
What a liberty!

Is that said in a Kathrine Tate voice ? I can hear her saying it. ?

Yellowmellow

Thats your view Blossom. Let someone else express their views. Doesn't mean you have to be right

Yes that is my view, and I see others agree with me. You have expressed your view as have many others, doesn’t mean I have to be wrong. Expressing views is what people do in forums.

Thats your view Blossom. Let someone else express their views. Doesn't mean you have to be right

MissAdventure

You think she'd have the decency to come back and have the piss taken a bit more.
What a liberty!

whatever gave you that idea !

Ha! Ha! Is this post a joke?

You think she'd have the decency to come back and have the piss taken a bit more.
What a liberty!

So where have you gone, TopsyandTim? Nothing to say?

What I really think is the OP is trying to show off and our way of dealing with it is take the

YellowMellow I agree with Blossoming to use a social media platform to ask such a question is always going to raise a few eyebrows!

The responses are tongue in cheek not nasty.

There speaks the voice of experience BabyLayla.

Yellowmellow

That is beside the point. If you read some of the comments they are just plain nasty and unnecessary and that is my point.

That is very much the point. I have read all the comments. Some people are having a joke. Nobody has been rude or nasty.