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Callistemon21

I've never heard of a primary school pupil getting detention. As a parent and grandparent I would go to pick up the child at the normal time and refuse to allow them to stay later.

Are primary school pupils streamed? I've never heard of that either.

Who gets 100% as a matter of course? It must be rare.

Is this real?

She says he is in year 8. Not primary.

My mistake!

I thought he was 8! 100% wrong
Detention for me ?

imaround

I should add that it states he can retake the quiz up to 3 times to improve his score.

That does not sound like a teacher who would give detention for an 80%.

Something is missing from the story you are being told.

Definitely sounds like something is missing. No mention of detention there, only chance to try the test 3 times and a look at his work. His parents should go and see the teacher or the head to query this.
Year 8 is second year high school, but still expecting 100% is a lot

Sorry I see someone has already explained that.
Obviously there is some missing information.
Detention immediately would be a nonsense and isn’t for not achieving academically anyway, it’s for poor behaviour or consistent failure to do homework …..or was !!

Callistemon21

I've never heard of a primary school pupil getting detention. As a parent and grandparent I would go to pick up the child at the normal time and refuse to allow them to stay later.

Are primary school pupils streamed? I've never heard of that either.

Who gets 100% as a matter of course? It must be rare.

Is this real?

She says he is in year 8. Not primary.

Nanatoone

I also agree that this is not the whole story. If all the information is a a a available to this very able pupil and he didn’t follow instructions to ensure he got all the facts then he didn’t do it right. I’m sure he knows what’s needed. It seems like a good way to revise work to me. Keeping all the pupils in the right place. I wish we’d had something like this, the teacher must have done a lot of work to create the quizzes and provide the answers.

Schools often buy in these schemes.

PS. See the thread about schools being privatised. Some of them spend money on curriculum plans and Knowledge Organisers just like this one.

The idea with this system is to ensure that every pupil understands each step before going on to the next one, so I would expect 100%. It's not like other forms of testing.

Callistemon21

I've never heard of a primary school pupil getting detention. As a parent and grandparent I would go to pick up the child at the normal time and refuse to allow them to stay later.

Are primary school pupils streamed? I've never heard of that either.

Who gets 100% as a matter of course? It must be rare.

Is this real?

... those were my thoughts also.

I also agree that this is not the whole story. If all the information is a a a available to this very able pupil and he didn’t follow instructions to ensure he got all the facts then he didn’t do it right. I’m sure he knows what’s needed. It seems like a good way to revise work to me. Keeping all the pupils in the right place. I wish we’d had something like this, the teacher must have done a lot of work to create the quizzes and provide the answers.

mokryna

When my children were off sick I would contact another parent to find out what had been taught. If I could get a photo copy of the notebook so that they could be kept up to date that was even better. A lot easier nowadays with phones taking photos but then I live in France.
Detention could mean spending 5/10 minutes with the teacher during playtime, when the teacher gives an explication of the missed lesson.

This child wasn't being tested on what had been taught in a lesson, but what was written down in a Knowledge Organiser.

My guess is that it was tested by Quizlet online and the pupil had three attempts.

Sorry, see that he was sent into detention.

When my children were off sick I would contact another parent to find out what had been taught. If I could get a photo copy of the notebook so that they could be kept up to date that was even better. A lot easier nowadays with phones taking photos but then I live in France.
Detention could mean spending 5/10 minutes with the teacher during playtime, when the teacher gives an explication of the missed lesson.

Ah, well, I'm all for standards being maintained, but it did seem pretty ridiculous to end up with a 90 minute detention for not having a green pen.

eazybee

Children are 'set' in some schools by ability. I don't know whether there are streams in secondary schools.
Thanks for explaining what KO stands for; it seems as though the whole story is not here.

Knowledge Organisers have become very popular and are endorsed by the Conservative DfE. They're a summary of the facts pupils have to learn and are usually issued in each subject. They expect pupils to learn by rote and memorising followed up with testing (or self-quizzing, as it's now called). The assignment in the OP specifically mentions the KO, so I would expect all the information to be there.

MissAdventure

My grandsons school quite suddenly began giving detentions for not sitting up straight, not immediately facing front, not standing when the teacher entered the room.

That's because Birbalsingh's Michaela School is flavour of the month and that's what they do.

My grandsons school quite suddenly began giving detentions for not sitting up straight, not immediately facing front, not standing when the teacher entered the room.

One of DD's friends is a teacher. She was working at a school which was consistently rated Outstanding by Ofsted. She left because she found it a horrible place to work and moved to another school which had a lower rating but the children were happy.

Something not quite right in this.

Children are 'set' in some schools by ability. I don't know whether there are streams in secondary schools.
Thanks for explaining what KO stands for; it seems as though the whole story is not here.

Was the detention at the end of the day or during a lunch break?
Detentions are usually for poor behaviour or not having the requisite equipment rather than lack of attainment. If your GS followed the guidelines - 3 attempts, copy out the questions, take your time - then parents should be talking to the teacher concerned or the child's form tutor. Most schools will have parents' evenings coming up soon!

Callistemon21

I've never heard of a primary school pupil getting detention. As a parent and grandparent I would go to pick up the child at the normal time and refuse to allow them to stay later.

Are primary school pupils streamed? I've never heard of that either.

Who gets 100% as a matter of course? It must be rare.

Is this real?

This is a top stream secondary school pupil in his second year.

Fleurpepper

imaround says 'Something is missing from the story you are being told.'

as a retired teacher, I think the same. There is a missing link here.

I agree. After looking at the instructions for the "self-quiz", questions are based on a Knowledge Organiser (KO). The information required will be in the KO, so wouldn't be affected by absence. A top stream pupil should have been able to access the information easily.

What happens to students who aren’t naturally bright, disabled or chronically ill, SEN or are dyslexic/dyspraxic. Seems like a great way to demotivate and alienate these groups of children so they drop out and they can achieve ‘outstanding’ status. Grim.

Less than 100%, let's look at the work to see what the student may be missing

That sounds more like what is meant.

I've never heard of a primary school pupil getting detention. As a parent and grandparent I would go to pick up the child at the normal time and refuse to allow them to stay later.

Are primary school pupils streamed? I've never heard of that either.

Who gets 100% as a matter of course? It must be rare.

Is this real?

LOUISA1523

The school.is anything but outstanding

Agree with that. An outstanding school should provide a happy atmosphere which encourages a love of learning.