Being a grandma compared to being a mother

Dinahmo

I think that grandparents are meant to give children space and time that they may not get from their parents and their busy lives, and also for treats. I spent quite a lot of time with my GPs until I was in my early 20s, often just me and them. My GM introduced me to a variety of activities which I still enjoy today - ballet, museums and stately homes, as well as teaching me how to make cakes. She also cooked a mean rack of lamb which I never do. I baulk at the price!

Yes that was kind of my idea of what being a grandparent would be, cooking Sunday lunches for them and my AC to enjoy, going to the theatre, museum, theme parks, stories and ice cream treats as I had done with my own GP.
Just fun times and treats but they meant a lot , we didn’t see our GP lots but thought our GP were lovely. However with my own AC and many of my friends they seem to expect so much more. It seems more about the expense and burden of parenting being taken off them than something for the GC/GP for example proving day care so they can save in childcare and be left with enough money to maintain their lifestyle or having a baby/toddler for a weekend so they can have a kid free weekend. The fact that it’s seen as an obligation too, do feel an obligation to help any family member out if they need it but almost feels like have been cast as understudy in a role I didn’t apply for

I think that grandparents are meant to give children space and time that they may not get from their parents and their busy lives, and also for treats. I spent quite a lot of time with my GPs until I was in my early 20s, often just me and them. My GM introduced me to a variety of activities which I still enjoy today - ballet, museums and stately homes, as well as teaching me how to make cakes. She also cooked a mean rack of lamb which I never do. I baulk at the price!

Reading through all the lovely replies has been really insightful and reassuring. It does it’s normal to not have the same feelings as a mother but beautiful to read of the wonderful relationships people have developed with their grandchildren. Rather than due to the strong biological need to mother their babies most mothers experience, these seem to have come about more through circumstance, in the best case scenario with grandmas that wanted that 2nd opportunity at parenting and AC who appreciated that support at the time.
I think I have to appreciate how unusual my experience as a young grandma is when the expectations of many AC (including my own) are based on grandmas who are not already maxed out plus keen for a 2nd chance of parenting. Also to not be at the same life stage as your contemporaries so no one to share the experience of grandparenthood with.
It also makes more sense now when I have heard friends complaining that their parents/MILS took care of other grandchildren but are not offering an equal service to them. Can see now that these GP were probably quite keen with the first couple of GC but is difficult to sustain that level of enthusiasm when more come along. It’s quite different to being a mother with lots of her own children who is actually making a choice to have another child and usually gets a new biological shot of maternal devotion for each child.
I really never imagined being a grandma would be such a minefield

I watched my father with his first grandchild and it was obvious that he regarded her in a different light to his own children. I, the eldest of 4 was born when he was 21. 3 more followed by the time he was 28 or 29.

My niece was born when he was 52 and he had all the time in the world for her. I remember visiting at her teatime and he was sitting in an armchair, having just fed her, with her on his shoulder, burping here whilst he read the Telegraph. He absolutely adored her.

This is in no way intended to denigrate his feelings for us but he had more time in his middle age than he had in his youth. Sadly he died from cancer aged 55 so he only had a short time with her.

I have big gaps between my children, and hence, big gaps between my grandchildren, so from when I had my oldest daughter, till now, there have always been children.
I think, there may be a break now, as youngest daughter has decided on no more, and oldest granddaughter isn’t interested.
Our son doesn’t have children, and is not very interested in his sisters children, it takes all sorts.

I adore my grandchildren and actually enjoy them more than my own children. I can see perfectly why when you’ve got a toddler of your own being a grandparent isn’t quite the same. I had a big gap between my children being babies and my grandchildren being born so by that time I was more than ready to have that baby time again.

I have written on threads before stating that, as much as I do care about my g.children, never a patch on the love I have for my children.

I was a full time Mother. My own five, plus one permanent foster child, as well as other fosterings who came and went. Hard times some of it, Hubbie seriously ill and disabled - but being a Mother has been- for me - the most worthwhile thing I have ever done.

I can empathise with the person on here who said that each time a daughter gave birth, it was just their welfare I was interested in, baby very much second!!!

All my g.children have been very much planned and desired babies. Because they make my children happy, they make me happy!!! Sort of extending the circle of love to involve them.

One g.child I had a lot to do with for the first fifteen yeas, Mum, lived nearby and single parent. So, yes I do have a little mkore feelings for her than maybe the others, but still nothing like the feelings I have for her Mum.

I have never really understood people who say that having grandchildren has been the most wonderful aspect of their lives. If none of my children had wanted to have their own children, (as with my son and his wife), I would have been more than happy.

Perhaps I have used all my emotions up (and continue to do so), with my total love (even when not always reciprocated), for my children (most of whom are now old enough to be participants here), that I have a much softer love for the grand children.

I suffered with bouts of depression and anxiety when my children were young, so didn't enjoy that time very much. Feel I wasn't a very good mum. With my two young GC I am enjoying seeing then grow and develop and am quite involved as I help with child care. I feel that I am a better granny to them than I was a mum to my children. Now my children are grown up I have a very good relationship with them, and they say thst they didn't feel unloved as children.

I have to say, without my thirteen year old granddaughter living with us for several years, I would never have heard of TikTok, watched Love Island or I’m a Celebrity.
I would never been up with teenage fashion by spending hours traipsing around Hollister and Urban Outfitters.
Obviously these are things I could happily have done without, but there is a plus side.
Who can sort out the Wi-Fi and navigate the millions tv channels available? Who encouraged me to use ApplePay? Who can work the SatNav? Who can sort out problems with my phone and laptop?
I’m constantly amazed at how all these things come so naturally to her, my husband thinks she’s a genius, I just think she’s a normal teenager.

I’m not particularly close to my grandchildren, and don’t seem to naturally know how to be with them the way I did with their parents

This is true, partly the age gap, partly because as I said previously ‘as a GP, you are one step removed’, or dare I say it, should be.

In our ever changing world, things have changed so much since my own children were born, mid 70’s, and I am just not up to date with how so many things are now for my teenage GC.

It’s their parents they turn to for advice, support, information, and that’s how it should be, with us GP’s on the sideline, but ready to chip in if necessary.

Helicopter parents can turn into helicopter grandparents if not careful.

@maybe70 that has been the lovely thing about having babies 20+ years after the first set, the chance to experience it all again but know to treasure and enjoy it. With the first ones much as I desperately wanted to just enjoy cuddling my baby, spend time with my toddlers but beyond meeting their needs and ensuring they were happy then it felt a self indulgence and that I should really be getting on with the important things like building my career and meeting other people’s needs and expectations. You don’t realise how quickly they change and their childhood goes either, they are not babies or little children who want cuddles and are full of joy at a day out or their hobbies for very long. To be able to do this all again and truly appreciate all that has been wonderful. Cuddling my newborns all day felt like a justified priority this time, I now work part time as much as the opportunities in my career are alluring and people will congratulate me for achieving in my career etc I know for certain how precious these times with my children are. I know that time is more precious than expensive things for them or ourselves so don’t feel that pressure to be earning lots either. I have the self awareness too that I sometimes need a break as well and so will draw on support when needed. Just to not be stressed about many of the challenges of parenthood, behaviour quirks etc like was first time.

I have had to learn to keep my mouth shut though as think end up being the most annoying parent among my contemporary mothers who are going through this for the first time. For example you want to say stop stressing about milestones, that your slightly shy child is unlikely to be autistic. To stop stressing over doing a big birthday party for your 1 or 2 year old or being able to afford to afford the hundred things your child doesn’t actually need. However have learned is usually better to keep quiet unless advice specifically asked. Yes you know they are totally stressed working all the hours they can to afford the huge birthday party etc and that their child will be overwhelmed and miserable throughout the huge party and burst into tears when the cake is bought out and you see the same in multiple aspects of parenting over and over but better to just give them the tea and sympathy after

Blondiescot
I was only saying to my husband a few days ago , that for someone who never really gave any thought to having children till it happened, I’ve spent more or less the last fifty years looking after them.

Sara1954

I think the problem is, that no matter how much we think we are going to resist getting too involved with our grandchildren, circumstances have other ideas. The cost of childcare, my youngest daughter leaving her partner and returning home with three children, none of it is as I expected, but that’s the thing isn’t it? You always have to be there for them all, and it never seems to end.
I’m not complaining, just saying that with my rose coloured glasses on, I saw my role very differently.

I know exactly what you mean. I was never much of a 'baby' person. I'd never even held a baby before I had my own and still don't coo over babies. When my son had his son, I was of course delighted, but certainly didn't foresee that I would end up becoming his primary caregiver for a couple of years. Son and GS ended up coming to live with us for those couple of years, and although he is now in a new relationship, because of his job, which involves shift work (his new partner is in the same job too), we have to care for our GS quite a lot of the time. He is a very hyperactive child too - literally (and yes, I do mean literally) never sit still, so looking after him is exhausting. I love him to bits, but this is not how I envisioned being a granny would be. Husband and I haven't had a holiday since pre-covid, partly because of the childcare situation. It just seems never-ending.

Katyj

I was first made a gran 21 years ago when I was 45 I loved him very much, but didn’t feel ready to become a gran, we still had a 17 year old at home, and my dad was ill and disabled at that time too
Now at 66 we have two small DGC this feels more natural but more tiring.
My own mum used to say she loved her two DGC more than me, and now at 92 much prefers to see them rather than me. I can’t identify with that at all.

Yes it’s probably party that issue of primarily identifying with that life stage. My focus is very much on my children, I’m here cuddling my poorly toddler who has just woken up, we’re waiting on exam results for the teenager and none of my contemporaries are grandmas. I have older colleagues at work who are very involved grandmas but they don’t have children still at home.

I really didn’t mind the news or idea that I was going to become a grandma though, it felt incredibly special. I wasn’t one of these people who hated the idea of being called grandma, actually feel incredibly privileged to have reached that life stage. I didn’t imagine though that it would be so steeped with such expectation, I remember the relationship with my grandparents (and my children’s grandparents) being one of enjoying and looking forward to spending time with them but didn’t seem to be steeped in the expectations on grandmas today. You saw them when you saw them, nowadays almost feel the expectation is similar to that on a father without residency. Conflicts with grandparents because the children don’t feel they are ‘doing enough’
To be honest I would have had much more trepidation about the impending news if I had known.

I don’t quite understand why parents would say they much prefer their grandchildren over their children.
I can see how the relationship as adults may be closer with their grandchild if the personalities better match but just as you wouldn’t tell one of your children another is a favourite I don’t see why it’s acceptable to say it in relation to a grandchild.

It’s hard to describe but the love I had as mother for each is my children when they were born was like no other, it would of been traumatic to have been separated from them, I wasn’t bothered by their dribbles, changing nappies etc, was hyper sensitive to their cries etc, I absolutely hate the idea of any other child dribbling on me 🤣 I love my grandchildren, they are lovely and can’t wait to take them to the theatre, cinema etc when they are old enough to appreciate such things, I loved spoiling them at Christmas but my feelings as a grandma are completely different.

I wonder what my capable organising daughter would think of this. She became a grandmother this year, which makes me a great-granny and totally irrelevant any more

Grammaretto

I know how you feel. I loved being a mum but it was all encompassing.
I remember an old lady in the street stopping to chat when I was pushing #4 in the pram.
Try to enjoy this time when they are young she said. I didn't have time ofcourse and they had grown up and left home before I knew it.
I love my 7 DGC and am immensely proud of them but the relationship is totally different.
They have parents, thankfully.

Same thing happened to me. I was on holiday and my first child was in her pushchair. I was looking at some archeological site and and elderly lady next to me said to cherish the time I had with her because it’s so short. I never forgot her words and find it incomprehensible that I’m now her. From someone who wasn’t baby minded ( I didn’t think I could have children) my world became my children. I’m not particularly close to my grandchildren and don’t seem to naturally know how to be with them the way I did with their parents. As a worrier, though, what does affect me is if the grandchildren aren’t well because, not only do I worry about them but it upsets me that their mum or dad is worried, too.

Thankyou Katyj, but I’m long past being bothered.
We don’t speak anymore, but she continues to have a close relationship with the perfect granddaughter.
Sometimes I feel a bit sorry for my daughter, can’t always be easy being the chosen one.
Like your mum, some parents probably have a preference for girls or boys, but I’ve never thought of boys as more colourful.

Oh Sara that’s awful, so sorry. I just don’t get it. I think mum preferred boys, she said they were more colourful 🙄

Katyj
My mother never tired of telling everyone she meets that her life would have been so much happier if she’d had my eldest daughter instead of me.

I was first made a gran 21 years ago when I was 45 I loved him very much, but didn’t feel ready to become a gran, we still had a 17 year old at home, and my dad was ill and disabled at that time too
Now at 66 we have two small DGC this feels more natural but more tiring.
My own mum used to say she loved her two DGC more than me, and now at 92 much prefers to see them rather than me. I can’t identify with that at all.

Sara1954

I think the problem is, that no matter how much we think we are going to resist getting too involved with our grandchildren, circumstances have other ideas. The cost of childcare, my youngest daughter leaving her partner and returning home with three children, none of it is as I expected, but that’s the thing isn’t it? You always have to be there for them all, and it never seems to end.
I’m not complaining, just saying that with my rose coloured glasses on, I saw my role very differently.

Yes if they really need you then little choice but to be there for them. Can imagine not an easy time though. Challenges of motherhood seem to be discussed all the time but the issue of the burdens on grandparents never seem to be considered

I think the problem is, that no matter how much we think we are going to resist getting too involved with our grandchildren, circumstances have other ideas. The cost of childcare, my youngest daughter leaving her partner and returning home with three children, none of it is as I expected, but that’s the thing isn’t it? You always have to be there for them all, and it never seems to end.
I’m not complaining, just saying that with my rose coloured glasses on, I saw my role very differently.

Mamissimo

I'm just back from the hospital where I met DGS for the first time. He was born this morning.....but it was my DD I really went to check over first!

I am terrified every time one of my strong capable girls goes into labour. The silence on the chat is palpable. The worry in my heart is almost overwhelming. I took her a wonderful etching of a new mother with her baby by one of our favourite artists - because I know everyone else be focused on the baby.

As a Granny I love my grandchildren - but I still put my own children first.

Congratulations!! Gosh yes I can imagine not sleeping at all if any of my DD ever goes through labour/giving birth and wanting to be there to make sure she’s well taken care of after

I found looking after my GSs when they were babies was much more fun than looking after my own. Experience helps of course - being able to say "Yes that rash is chicken pox" (it was), "If he's screaming for no apparent reason it could be earache" (it was) I quite enjoyed being the fount of all knowledge for a few months. I suspect I wouldn't have been involved if I'd still got children of my own at home.

@iamarocker, sorry for the loss of your own mother xx Beautiful to hear that your GD phoned you every day to check on you