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Adult DC potentially making me choose between them and partner

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EverybodyHatesMaureen Sat 30-Sept-23 10:29:47

Sorry for the long post

I’m a 57yo widow with 3 adult children all in their late 20’s/early 30’s, all of them have children.

My DH died 3.5 years ago, just before lockdown, from a heart attack. He was 55 and up until then, healthy - it was a huge shock for us all.

Digressing a bit - our marriage wasn’t easy when the kids were little. We both worked, but he did absolutely none of the raising of the kids. I did everything - cooking, bedtimes, cleaning, story time, school run, nativities etc. He would play dinosaurs or some fun game for 30 minutes of an evening and they thought he was the best thing ever while boring mummy was always cleaning. I used to beg him to chip in more but he refused - he was a bit of a chauvinist and I never left because, well, frankly I didn’t want the kids to be from a broken home. This is probably the story of so many women my age. I really hid, and still do hide, just how awful, lazy and unkind he could be. He was rubbish at parenting - the 30 minutes of being a dinosaur on an eveNing was usually too much for him. I did it all - the emotional and physical labour. He was tight with money, always treated himself and never me (my wages went into the many thing he didn’t realise kids cost such as sports clubs, shoes, school uniform etc). Even after I had major surgery I was still expected to pack lunches and do laundry - even when my stitches burst as a result. He just found it all very annoying that I wasn’t doing better at ‘Mumming’ even when on death’s door. He had some truly horrible moments. Anyway, it got better after the kids left home and we really found our spark again. But I would never, ever want my kids to be treated the way I was and in hindsight genre was too much I put up with.

This is relevant because they have always, but especially since his death put him - and our marriage - on a pedestal. They always talk to their partners about how me and DH were ‘couple goals’. My DD2 tells her boyfriend (who she met after DH died) that we were the perfect couple. I can only say I must have hidden our problems well for them to think that.

Anyway, I haven’t dated since his death. I’ve thrown myself into looking after my 5 grandchildren (I work PT 2 days a week and the other 3 days I have the 3 nursery aged one so my DC can save on childcare fees) which I absolutely love. I also do a lot of sleepovers so my kids can have date night. I am close to my DC and their partners, they all moved back home with me for the 1st lockdown as we’d just lost DH and we all really needed that time together. After they moved out I did feel lonelier than I thought, and have relied on friendships for company. As well as doing childcare, I help all the DC financially in various ways, including paying nursery fees for 2 DGC on days I work, DD1 gets money every month as something of an early inheritance and they’ve all had deposits/weddings etc paid for. Which I really don’t mind doing, especially as they always make the effort to see me.

Anyway, 6 months ago I ran into a man I haven’t seen in two decades. We were colleagues and really good friends. It was platonic as we were both married. We naturally drifted apart after he left the company. But running into him, there was a real spark and he has somehow got even better looking than he was. he’s been divorced a few years now and so we met up for a drink….and the rest is history.

Honestly, even for DH, I don’t think I’ve ever felt this way. DP is kind, attentive, generous and we have a really good laugh - and fantastic sex, something I was worried I’d never find again. I’ve been happier in these last six months than I have for a very, very long time. We have said we love each other and we both want a future. I never want to be married again but I would like to live with him at some point. He has an adult DD, who I’ve met and she is really lovely and supportive of us. I feel so lucky to find this happiness after a huge loss. I feel like I’m 20 again!

I hadn’t told my DC - which isn’t ideal. But I wanted to just enjoy my new relationship for what it was without worrying about upsetting other people or without other people’s opinions. My friends have met DP and think he’s amazing. I feel no guilt at all - had I been the one to die 3.5 years ago, DH would probably have had a new girlfriend and moved her in within six months! I also think my marriage was so, so hard and hate-filled at times that I deserve to have an easy and loving relationship.

Anyway, DP was staying over one night last week. I WFH, so does he, so on the night before my working days (ie when I don’t have the GC the next day) he will stay the night and work in my spare room the next day.

So it was 8am and we were both in our nightwear (me in an oversized shirt thing and him in boxers) having coffee in the kitchen. In walks DD1 with DGC. She’d tried to contact me to say DGC was ill and couldn’t go to nursery and would I have her. My phone was upstairs so she just brought her round (she has a key) and saw me and DP.

I knew the kids wouldn’t take it well but to say that what followed was total pandemonium would be an understatement. You’d think I’d been caught cheating. DD1 hit the roof. DP left (at my request) and DD1 called DS and DD2. Before I knew it they both came over (you’d think they’d have bloody work to do!). DS was actually crying at one point. I explained what had been happening and why I didn’t tell them. They saw it as cheating on their dad. Which is ridiculous. DD2 was completely repulsed that I was sexually active at ‘my age’. They couldn’t understand how I could do this when I’d had such a good marriage. Probably because I was being defensive and I felt they were ganging up on me, but I told them that our marriage wasn’t perfect and he could be really unpleasant actually and the only reason they don’t know that is because I protected them from it. Not a very wise move, but I just got sick of the same old ‘perfect marriage’ shite

I have no expectations of them meeting DP anytime soon, I told them that, but I was clear: this is MY life and I will love whomever I choose and what I do in the privacy of my own home is my business. I explained they all had their partners, their lives and little families but they forget that I have been lonely and could spend another 40 years on this Earth and I don’t want to do that alone.

They absolutely cannot see reason. They have thrown back in my face the fact they lived here during COVID to support me. They said it felt like I was cheating on DH. They said they can’t, and never will, accept I have a DP. They’ve said I’ve ‘suddenly decided DH was horrible’ and that my new DP must be planting this idea in my head because they’d never heard me badmouth their dad before. DS even messaged me yesterday to say he’s so against me having a new DP that he ‘doesn’t want to make me choose’ but he ‘feels it’s getting that way’ and his sisters agree. Mind you - it didn’t stop all of them dropping their kids off here for childcare this week. When they do drop them off, they barely look at me let alone speak to me. DS’s lovely wife has been great and thinks he’s being a dick (and has told him as much) but sadly it’s not enough to help him see how awful he’s being to me. I have no idea what my SIL’s think but according to DD’s they’re in agreement with them.

I do get they’re still grieving - I really do. But this is nothing to do with their dad. They have no right to make me choose or make me feel bad.

DP has been amazing through all this - he is happy to take it as slow as I want but at the same time he’s obviously feeling really disgusted with their behaviour and is defensive of me and he isn’t saying that but I can feel it.

Anyway - AIBU to refuse to give up my relationship if my DC give me an ultimatum? I feel bullied. Their dad used to bully me with manipulation sometimes and it makes me physically sick that they take after him that way. I would of course (hypothetically) be heartbroken to lose them and DGC - but I really feel like this ultimatum is calling my bluff. I really can’t see them following through for more than a couple of days - then they will need childcare/money/a favour/a lift. It seems THEIR love is conditional except all the conditions fall on me and not them. And the conditions are that they get everything from me and I forgo my right to a private life of my own.

I’m utterly heartbroken. what the hell do I do?

Jjooly Sat 30-Sept-23 13:26:27

You are entitled to be happy and to be with your partner, obviously your AC have had a shock but to make out your cheating and to try and guilt you into walking away from happiness so your lonely and then very grateful to look after your grandchildren is horrendous. It is manipulation and bullying and like another poster said they are frightened you won’t be so generous with giving your money away to them. It’s all about them, they want your life to just revolve around them to carry on being convenient to them with no thought of your happiness at all.

Grandmafrench Sat 30-Sept-23 13:24:33

Loads of good advice and support here for you, EHM, and why not? You've done absolutely nothing wrong and I'm with Fleur in this, you need to have that meeting, sit down and tell them exactly how you all go from here. No need to feel bad about anything but there's stuff which needs to be resolved and which includes their arrangements for childcare which they clearly think can just continue after such a fracas and such a lot of spiteful and entitled behaviour towards you !

New rules are needed and some apologies to you need to be forthcoming. If they feel they can walk. into your home at any time and for any reason but will never risk any surprises, then they are very naive. Your life, plans, friendships, relationships, do perhaps need to be shared when you choose; but you don't need their permission or agreement to your own decisions.

It looks as if you gave your marriage your all and did everything you could to make things works for the sake of your children. Those children are now repaying you as adults by regressing into spoilt kids. It must stop. You mustn't even think about giving up on a relationship which clearly makes you both very happy. That would be madness. So, no apologies - and of course you would have told them at a time you chose....the fact that they walked into your home and found out themselves is not your problem. They should be able to deal with the prospect of their Mum moving on and being happy and content. If not, they don't think much - and they don't think much of you.

No more reasons, excuses or trying to justify your unhappiness with their Dad. They'll always remember him in a certain way, no need to spoil those memories now. Just hold on tight to the new man in your heart and be determined to put yourself first, be strong and look forward to a wonderfully happy life.

sodapop Sat 30-Sept-23 13:22:38

Your adult children reacted very badly to the situation Maureen and selfishly. It was a shock for them though to find out in the way they did.
I agree with others, let things settle for a while then get them together for an honest discussion. I don't think you need to go into all the finer details of your marriage to their father but suffice it to say things were not always what they seemed. Leave them in no doubt that your life is your own now to do as you please and you don't need their permission for anything. The fact you have a new partner does not mean you love your family any less but they should stop taking you for granted. Good luck.

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BlueBelle Sat 30-Sept-23 13:00:05

What a difficult situation I can understand why you didn’t tell them but I think it would have been less traumatic and less of a shock if you had admitted you were going to start dating again now that you d been on your own for a good while and finding it lonely You needn’t have mentioned the new man just a general statement
I can understand what a shock is was for your daughter to bring her child for child care and find her mum and an unknown man in their nightclothes, of course you deserve a life whether your husband was a saint or a sinner However as they ve never, as adults, heard you say a bad word against their Dad, of course they would be shocked and think you are making it up

All you can now do is lay low carry on with the man and looking after the grandkids making sure that nothing ever connects or overlaps in the future and hope that time heals

eazybee Sat 30-Sept-23 12:39:47

It is NOT cheating.
What an unkind thing to say.
You have been a widow for three and a half years and you do not have to inform your independent adult children of your private life.
I hope you continue to have a happy relationship with this man, and you are absolutely right in telling them you are not ending the relationship because they disapprove. How dare they.
As you say, they are quite happy to accept your (free) child minding services despite thinking they can order you to do what they say.
They all sound incredibly childish; your daughter in law sounds lovely.
Oh, and change the locks.

Shelflife Sat 30-Sept-23 12:22:50

Accept !

Shelflife Sat 30-Sept-23 12:22:21

Of course you are not cheating and your AC should' nt see it as cheating either!!
The picture your AC have if their father is not a true assessment of him - you did what I would have done, that is to protect them from who he was !! They may find this relationship difficult but that is their problem - are they really grown ups !!!? Hope this situation resolves itself, this is your new life and you deserve to be happy!! Stick to your guns , and I sincerely hope your AC comes to accy that you are entitled to your own private life. Good luck.

mokryna Sat 30-Sept-23 12:10:52

It is your life for the next fifty years., go and enjoy.
DC could be thinking of how their inheritance is going to be spent before they can own it because DM is shopping for herself and going on holidays.

Callistemon21 Sat 30-Sept-23 12:03:11

As well as doing childcare, I help all the DC financially in various ways, including paying nursery fees for 2 DGC on days I work, DD1 gets money every month as something of an early inheritance and they’ve all had deposits/weddings etc paid for. Which I really don’t mind doing, especially as they always make the effort to see me.

They're probably worried that the cash might dry up too, and that they might lose their inheritance!

Really, Maureen, you have been very accommodating, always there, always ready to help and with money if needed, which is kind.
But they need to grow up.

Mind you - no-one wants to think of their parents having sex, even with each other! How they think they came into the world is a mystery.

rafichagran Sat 30-Sept-23 11:55:32

Your adult children are selfish and entitled. Your son nearly crying is pathetic,your dil is right he is a Dick.
You carry on seeing this lovely man, your children are only looking after themselves, they are worried they may lose money and childcare.
I have a partner, my children accepted him, and know I have a life, they also did not rely on me for childcare either.
How dare they try and control your life, you are a adult and you deserve happiness after all the years you put up with their Father. I am afraid the apple never fell far from the tree as they are just like their Father.
They need to realise how lucky they are to have you, and as for still dropping of their children and barely talking to you, this is just ill mannered and disrespectful, trust me you deserve better.

pascal30 Sat 30-Sept-23 11:53:36

Fleur20

This is not a rotten situation!
You are acting like a grown up, over three years a widow, after an up and down marriage. You are perfectly entitled to have a life, a sex life and a deep, lasting and loving relationship.
Your kids are behaving like brats.
Did any of them run their future partners past you for approval?
Did they really thjnk you were going to grive forever and live like a nun forever?
You dont answer to your kids. Have they, in three and a half years, ever asked if you are ready to move forward, thought about another relationship?
I doubt it... they all now see you as a convenient extension to their lives, not a person in your own right! Handy for childcare at the drop of a hat and the odd financial handout!

You are being a lot more reasonable about this than I would be. They would have been given their marching orders for being so bloody disrespectful in the first place.
Of course they are going to be upset, but they are going to have to dig deep, APOLOGISE and accept that underneath being their Mum you are very much alive and intend to live your life. With or without their approval.
Call a family meeting, get them all round a table and lay out your terms.
Dont back down.
They either respect your right to your own life, accept your choices or make alternative childcare arrangements ( and arrange bank loans ?).
You should be number one in your own life now.
I wish you every happiness in your relationship, he sounds a keeper!!

very sound post.. I completely agree..don't allow yourself to be bullied or guilt tripped.. life can be very lonely without a loving partner

Callistemon21 Sat 30-Sept-23 11:52:15

NotSpaghetti

I don't consider it cheating- but adult children probably would. That's what I meant.

Well, it isn't cheating, Maureen has been widowed for over three years.

Perhaps you should have mentioned your friend to them before, Maureen but is understandable that you didn't.

However, heir relationship with their father was different to your relationship with him so perhaps it's best not to criticise or even explain how difficult he was to your children.

They should not issue ultimatums. You are your own person and can make your own decisions, although it does sound as if they have all taken you very much for granted over the years.

Good luck.

Fleur20 Sat 30-Sept-23 11:38:05

This is not a rotten situation!
You are acting like a grown up, over three years a widow, after an up and down marriage. You are perfectly entitled to have a life, a sex life and a deep, lasting and loving relationship.
Your kids are behaving like brats.
Did any of them run their future partners past you for approval?
Did they really thjnk you were going to grive forever and live like a nun forever?
You dont answer to your kids. Have they, in three and a half years, ever asked if you are ready to move forward, thought about another relationship?
I doubt it... they all now see you as a convenient extension to their lives, not a person in your own right! Handy for childcare at the drop of a hat and the odd financial handout!

You are being a lot more reasonable about this than I would be. They would have been given their marching orders for being so bloody disrespectful in the first place.
Of course they are going to be upset, but they are going to have to dig deep, APOLOGISE and accept that underneath being their Mum you are very much alive and intend to live your life. With or without their approval.
Call a family meeting, get them all round a table and lay out your terms.
Dont back down.
They either respect your right to your own life, accept your choices or make alternative childcare arrangements ( and arrange bank loans ?).
You should be number one in your own life now.
I wish you every happiness in your relationship, he sounds a keeper!!

Grannynannywanny Sat 30-Sept-23 11:21:33

Phew !

EverybodyHatesMaureen Sat 30-Sept-23 11:18:19

My name is not Maureen don’t worry!

Grannynannywanny Sat 30-Sept-23 11:16:09

What a rotten situation. Your children are being very selfish. Try to be careful not to give too much personal information on here that might fan the flames if any of them come across the thread . If you’ve used your actual name in your username it might be wise to ask for it to be edited. It’s an open forum and can be read by anyone anywhere and some threads end up on Facebook.

I hope it all settles down for you and you can be happy in your life 💐

EverybodyHatesMaureen Sat 30-Sept-23 11:07:37

Yes I doubt they will revoke the childcare - nurseries round here are £70 a day I can’t see them paying an extra £800 a month just to spite me!

Hopikins Sat 30-Sept-23 11:05:21

Stick to your DP, I am 75 and the times I have heard similar stories are endless. Adult children can be so very selfish, I have friends who have been treated exactly the same as you and have suffered so much, it sickens me. Be brave, put on your big girl knickers, tell them you are their Mother and expect respect and you will NOT be dictated too. Do not let them blackmail you into a lonely future. You are still a comparatively young woman and could live another 40 plus years. Enjoy your life with your DP and go forward. I guarantee they will accept your decision, if you are strong. God bless x

Smileless2012 Sat 30-Sept-23 11:03:08

And you wont be needed for childcare for ever EHM will you.

EverybodyHatesMaureen Sat 30-Sept-23 11:01:23

Thanks Sago - I don’t think they really did know. I used to always make excuses for him. “Sorry daddy couldn’t make it to your nativity he has the flu and is in bed” rather than “he’s hungover and can’t be bothered”. I did 30 years of this. It’s my own fault really.

Coronation Sat 30-Sept-23 11:00:29

They would have had a shock initially, and possibly they have always expected you to be there for them and not realised you have needs if that makes sense. Hopefully they will come to terms with it soon as the atmosphere when handing the kids over isn't good for the kids. I really don't believe they would pay increase childcare etc and they would prefer to have you in their life. Hopefully it's the shock talking

elasticatedslacks Sat 30-Sept-23 10:59:38

This is total lunacy - if they were loving children they would be thrilled that you have met someone who gives you happiness. For them it is actually better to have the single parent happily coupled than becoming more of a burden down the line with more responsibility of caring for an elderly parent falling on them. It is such a cheek they expect you to continue to help them out with grandchildren etc yet are not backward in coming forward with their unwanted opinions. Id be so tempted to say well if it's that upsetting and I'm such a wanton woman you won't be happy leaving your grandchildren with me then! They all have their own relationships yet deny you yours. I probably wouln't have let the original OP be placed on such a pedestal - you kept the facade of a perfect marriage probably for all the best reasons and its now a bit difficult to back track from that. I hope they come round soon and realise they lose more than they gain with being so heavy handed and with your future happiness.

EverybodyHatesMaureen Sat 30-Sept-23 10:59:01

Perhaps they worry that you wont be so available to provide all the support your currently give to them and your GC.

this is what my friend said - she has a v different relationship with her AC and she thinks I let mine take the Piss. I don’t necessarily agree with her BTW, I love being able to help them out after they experienced such a devastating loss. But she thinks they wouldn’t be as interested in me if I didn’t provide so much childcare.

Sago Sat 30-Sept-23 10:58:29

Your daughter is shocked, she opened a door and walked into your world, a world she had no idea existed, her reaction is shock and she needs time to come to terms with it.

I suggest your children knew exactly what their father was like but because of his premature death they want to rewrite history, this makes it easier for them as they are mourning the father they wanted not the father they had, they are not ready to deal with the facts.

I suggest you give them time, carry on as you normally would remain resolute and don’t let them come between you and your relationship.

I know this is hard but you must not cave in.

Things will get better.