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Good Morning Tuesday 12th May 2026
Retirement is it what you thought it would be?
we have an elderly neighbour who was really poorly two weeks ago with a contagious flu type thing, her son is not there at the moment, we wondered why she had not been out and about seeing her car is in the same spot.
I phoned her to ask if she was ok, she sounded terrible and hurt to speak. The surgery had bidden her keep warm and drink plenty. She did manage to give me a long list of things she needed.
My OH walked up to Waitrose our nearest shop and bought what she required, leaving it on her doorstep, two bags of food including generic medicine, ibuprofen, honey, Fentimans pink lemonade, (not on offer) ice cream, milk, soups, eggs, cooked chicken, chocolate, came to 32+ quid.
Our neighbour phoned to thank us, we wished her soon be well and have not heard from her since although her car is not there this week since Sunday.
The only thing my OH bought her which wasn’t requested was the chocolate.
He also left the receipt in one of the bags. He paid cash.
When she has collared me in the past, as when her son
had accidently driven off with her car keys, she has handed over cash, said she always has cash in the house, but clearly not this time? as in if we left her shopping in her porch, she could have left the money in the porch?
My OH feels put on although he shopped with my cash,
that now our neighbour is clearly out and about we have not heard from her.
Perhaps we were over generous. Perhaps she has forgotten?
She is back home today.
She is a pleasant lady, who we couldn’t see suffer.
My OH remarked that why isn’t she better stocked at her age,
I said this was beside the point,
now coming around to his way of thinking.
Now I’m feeling ungracious, thinking, why didn’t I mmob.
At the time I imagined how I would feel, being ill with no tissues or fruit juice in the house, in a ‘be done by as you would* rationale.
Because he walked, to ‘stretch his legs’ my OH could only carry two bags and returned for our few bits of shopping, legs well stretched, so I can understand his miffedness although, it was his idea to walk and he is a kind and generous man.
Obviously now I’m prepared to write it off. If indeed we are being taken advantage of, isn’t it a shame that there will be no next time, for her or any other needy neighbour unless money up front.
Should she have forgotten and pays up I will come back and say although it seems unlikey now after two weeks? and her being sharp as a tack.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this? wwyd ?
Just ask.
You sound a little hostile towards her. Maybe give her the benefit of the doubt as she may have genuinely forgotten to pay you but do go round and be friendly as she could be mortified to realise she hasn't paid you. Just say you realise with being ill she has forgotten to pay you and see how she reacts.
You will know where you stand with her then.
This is an example of why I try to avoid any interactions with neighbours. I have mobility issues and dont drive so this is a perfect excuse not to get mixed up in potential shopping expeditions for others.
A while back one of my other (nosyhole) neighbours tried to con me into being an emergency contact for the woman with dementia who lives next door. I was able to refuse with a clear conscience. She even had the cheek to leave a piece of paper on my gate with her phone number "in case you change your mind." My nephew put the paper back through her door with a terse note on the back instructing her not to harass his aunt. Have not heard from her since.
Sometimes it helps to have a male on hand.
I’d knock her door visitors or not, perhaps better with visitors actually and politely remind her.
One of your neighbours is a nosyhole biglouis? You sound nice. 
I like Scat’s idea of giving her your bank details, as she might not keep much cash in the house. I’d definitely be jogging her memory though, one way or another.
I hope it is just that she’s forgotten and not decided the bags of shopping were a gift.
thanks for replies - new development - she has no intention
of paying, said we asked her did she need anything, not her fault we bought so much?!
This is stretching the truth - my OH was venturing out to
buy lemons, not hauling a shipping order.
She asked OH did he have the receipt, he said, it was in one
of the bags which incidentally, as you have not returned and
if you are keeping them, another £1.20.
Apparently he didn’t?! leave a receipt and anyway she is not paying a dime.
The neighbour is now saying OH could not prove anything,
if he paid cash
OH told her, I used a scanner and Waitrose
will have a copy as I recall the time.
Neighbour slammed door in his face.
So much for peace retreats.
This is not a feeble old woman, elderly though she is
( mid 80’s I would say)
Our neighbour in between our houses heard it all and
came out to speak to OH, said, she did the same to me,
persuaded me into booking a coach holiday, never paid
me back and we were on the same trip!
On being asked for the payment, £400, said she thought
she was being treated ?!
Threat of small claims court sorted that out pdq apparently.
We so wish we had known this a couple of weeks ago.
This is the price one pays for not gossiping about ones neighbours.
Tomorrow I will write her a letter, photocopying it, push
it through her porch letterbox with 2 witnesses, itemising purchases, suggesting she does the right thing
This has been a real headshaker.
How short sighted of this person to behave in this
shabby fashion towards well meaning neighbours,
unbelievable really.
thanks for all responses
Smileless2012
Why assume that she hasn't paid because she has no intention of doing so?
Yes, she's probably forgotten.
Just remind her, nicely.
X post, I see the update now.
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You often express a very cynical opinion of your fellow man biglouis. Yes, any interaction with neighbours etc. can be risky, but also very rewarding. All part of life’s rich tapestry….
Eurgh, lesson learnt there MissQuoted. It looks like you'll have to write off the debt and put it down to experience unfortunately. But one thing's for sure; it would be a cold day in hell before I offered to help her again.
MissQuoted Just look on the bright side, it's only£20, you occupy the moral high ground and can ignore her in future. IMO it's worth £20 to find out someone can't be trusted or helped!
That’s dreadful MissQuoted!
How awful!
Nobody would blame you if you did not help a neighbour ever again.
I have just been so grateful for a lift to a hospital appointment some distance away. The driver refused to take any money. His wife said, it gave us an opportunity to do a kindness.
I must remember that.
MissQuoted I call ours" Musollini "because she is just like the character Maggie Smith plays in "Tea with Mussolini".
She has a huge sycamore that bends over the grass verge towards us with the westerly winds. We had to buy a second refuse bin for all the leaves and she asked if we did not want the first could she have it.
It also has a broken branch that hangs over the highway just at the top of our drive DH calls it Damaclese. The number of people who have pointed out to me that it is dangerous and we should have it taken down. When we had tree fellers doing a lot of our trees, I asked her if she wanted to go halves with the branch which is hers. No! we could have it cut down at our expense.
I'd just give her a wide berth, I was warned about our neighbour but thought people were exaggerating.
Some people end up alone and helpless in old age because of the type of people they are.
Delila
You often express a very cynical opinion of your fellow man biglouis. Yes, any interaction with neighbours etc. can be risky, but also very rewarding. All part of life’s rich tapestry….
Not if life's tapestry is all one-sided, you give it a try.
How do you know I haven’t Bella?
What a thoroughly objectionable old lady. At least you know where you stand.
Put it down to experience and stand firm on not getting involved with her again.
A gift??? Bah Humbug!
I think Bella23 is actually posting a comment about big louis post Delila, although quoting yours . She (bl) is one of our more forthright posters.
Thankyou, Georgesgran 
Wow! Incredible, when I read the start of the thread I assumed that she forgot as she was not well. Hope you get the money back.
What a very stupid old lady. Good neighbours who will help you when needed are like gold dust.
I doubt anyone will rush to help her in future.
You often express a very cynical opinion of your fellow man biglouis. Yes, any interaction with neighbours etc. can be risky, but also very rewarding. All part of life’s rich tapestry
I have never asked someone to shop for me without paying them up front. I have a very sharp appreciation of the value of money and things.
Last time I posted about being conned into being an “emergency contact” for my neighbour almost every poster on the thread advised me to steer clear.
www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/a1324376-So-Ive-been-volunteered-as-a-proxy-key-holder-and-possible-carer-for-my-dementia-neighbour
She sounds a deceitful opportunist and there is no way I would let her off the £32 !! You have the example of your other neighbour who was conned. Good idea to leave the note and details, as you suggested. If she didn't pay up I would leave the same note every single day until she did. Failing that I would wait until she has a visitor and I would call round and directly and firmly ask for it.
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