Rishi addressing the nation.

Agree Urmstongran

Funny how this thread is now debating the rich -v- the poor.
Why do we collectively ignore the elephant in the room? It’s about Islamists folks.

Kadinsky you posted

but I don’t t believe Sunak has the slightest idea about struggling to pay his gas bill! Or choosing between heating or eating

I will add that 90% of parliament have never made that choice along with the majority of people in the U.K. (2021/22 22% were thought to be in poverty)

22% is far too many, but it is not all the fault of the rich.

Glorianny

OMG a rich bloke asking us all to be united. I passed a food bank yesterday with a long queue waiting outside. We are not united Rishi, we are divided, and words will not change that, or put food into the mouths of poor children.

Last night on the BBC news they presented an item which showed that “fine dining” establishments had not suffered from the economic problems. They showed some desserts being served up which so many people at the moment could only dream of. Just the thing to see while many families have just collected their meal from a food bank.

I don't care that Sunak is rich and married to a very rich woman. What I do care about is the lack of competence of the Tory party he represents which over 14 years has delivered a failing NHS, a housing crisis, a cost of living crisis, bankrupt local Councils and failed social care as well as mortgage hikes after the Truss disaster, not to mention Brexit.

Urmstongran

he truth is that extremism takes many forms and for too long we have accepted it here in Britain. Screaming mobs baying for blood outside schools, teachers having to go into protection schemes, their careers in tatters. Parents terrified because their child scuffed a Qur’an. Mobs threatening a kebab shop. It’s insidious.

A young man was verbally attacked on the a tube (London Underground) this week, he was wearing a Kippah (sp). He was screamed at that he was responsible for killing babies in Gaza.

Everyone has the right to go about their daily lives without fear of intimidation or being in receipt of racial discrimination.

GrannyGravy13

Cossy
Kandinsky

but utterly pointless and simply to enforce that he’s a “good bloke” He’s a rich bloke, living in a different universe to most of us

And Sir Kier Starmer knows what it’s like to rely on food banks?

We were talking about our PM!

However Starmer did grow up in a normal household and isn’t married to a billionaire non dom!
The PM’s mother was a pharmacist, his father was a GP.

Should he have not married the person he fell in love with because her parents were wealthy?

Like I said upthread it is not a crime to be wealthy, and it is rather tedious to constantly go on about how rich our MP’s are.

I’m not sure what your point here is but I don’t believe Sunak has the slightest idea about struggling to pay his gas bill! Or choosing between heating or eating!

Kandinsky

Cossy

What’s his wife got to do with anything?

So what if he’s rich, most PM’s are!

You don’t have to have struggled to know what it’s like and to care.

Perhaps posters want all our MP’s to be poor with no life experience outside of a local housing estate…

he truth is that extremism takes many forms and for too long we have accepted it here in Britain. Screaming mobs baying for blood outside schools, teachers having to go into protection schemes, their careers in tatters. Parents terrified because their child scuffed a Qur’an. Mobs threatening a kebab shop. It’s insidious.

Whitewavemark2

The time and place was all wrong. This should have been read out in parliament - leadership begins there, and Sunak needed to make it plain with a call for moderation of all their language and more respectful behaviour would be a start.

There was no policy announcement, merely a hope that the police would be more effective and unspecified “groups” would be dealt with.

Veritable storm in the teacup.

Yes!

Cossy

Kandinsky

but utterly pointless and simply to enforce that he’s a “good bloke” He’s a rich bloke, living in a different universe to most of us

And Sir Kier Starmer knows what it’s like to rely on food banks?

We were talking about our PM!

However Starmer did grow up in a normal household and isn’t married to a billionaire non dom!

The PM’s mother was a pharmacist, his father was a GP.

Should he have not married the person he fell in love with because her parents were wealthy?

Like I said upthread it is not a crime to be wealthy, and it is rather tedious to constantly go on about how rich our MP’s are.

Cossy

What’s his wife got to do with anything?

So what if he’s rich, most PM’s are!

You don’t have to have struggled to know what it’s like and to care.

The thread is about our PM! If you guys all want to start another thread about Labour leaders, please feel free. “Whataboutery” doesn’t change the facts about Sunak nor his extremely wealthy cabinet! No one has to use a food bank to have had money worries!

Kandinsky

but utterly pointless and simply to enforce that he’s a “good bloke” He’s a rich bloke, living in a different universe to most of us

And Sir Kier Starmer knows what it’s like to rely on food banks?

We were talking about our PM!

However Starmer did grow up in a normal household and isn’t married to a billionaire non dom!

Kandinsky

GrannyGravy13

Absolutely.

You’d think all Labour leaders were ex miners struggling to feed 4 kids on a council estate.

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GrannyGravy13

Absolutely.

You’d think all Labour leaders were ex miners struggling to feed 4 kids on a council estate.

Kandinsky

*but utterly pointless and simply to enforce that he’s a “good bloke” He’s a rich bloke, living in a different universe to most of us*

And Sir Kier Starmer knows what it’s like to rely on food banks?

Don’t forget Sir Keir Starmer campaigned for Jeremy Corbyn to be PM at the last GE…

but utterly pointless and simply to enforce that he’s a “good bloke” He’s a rich bloke, living in a different universe to most of us

And Sir Kier Starmer knows what it’s like to rely on food banks?

kittylester

Anniebach

I disagree, if the more affluent can’t visualise hunger it follows
no one is capable of visualisation

Exactly this

Totally agree.

There seems to be a continuous theme over many threads that the rich are culpable for all ills and not capable of empathy, or knowing about the ways of the world or the UK

Anniebach

I disagree, if the more affluent can’t visualise hunger it follows
no one is capable of visualisation

Exactly this

Talks cheap it's action we want.

vegansrock

The real threat to democracy has been this government. Much of the British way of life has been decimated over the past 14 years - failing to maintain the infrastructure, the NHS, crumbling roads, polluted waterways and beaches, creaming taxpayers money for themselves- the hypocrisy is breathtaking. With Liz Lettuce spouting vile nonsense in the US, Braverman and Badenoch never being asked to tone down the hate, anyone who criticises the disastrous Brexit labelled “traitors” or “enemies of the people”, this government is responsible for much of the hate and division which has increased massively since 2016. This was a cynical attempt at gaslighting the public into believing that those responsible for the hurt and hatred can somehow be trusted to heal and be a shining light for humanity. It’s all hot air, willy waving and a desperate attempt to justify the increased police powers that are no doubt coming. He is trying to divert attention from this terrible government onto an internal enemy. It won’t wash.

Yes.

Hate started at the top. They were warned when the divisive politicking started, about 6-7 years ago, but it was ignored - Anderson announced last year that the election would be fought on “cultural wars” - what cultural war? It hadn’t started until the Tories “identified” enemies of the state.

Gaza and peoples’ alarm at what they see night after night on their television feeds into the narrative and of course marches against the violence are the gift that keeps on giving to the likes of Braverman and Anderson.

Sunak needs to clean his house up of corruption, hate filled speech by some members and a very low bar when it comes to a moral compass.

Do that and I think he will be then in a position to lecture the country.

vegansrock

The real threat to democracy has been this government. Much of the British way of life has been decimated over the past 14 years - failing to maintain the infrastructure, the NHS, crumbling roads, polluted waterways and beaches, creaming taxpayers money for themselves- the hypocrisy is breathtaking. With Liz Lettuce spouting vile nonsense in the US, Braverman and Badenoch never being asked to tone down the hate, anyone who criticises the disastrous Brexit labelled “traitors” or “enemies of the people”, this government is responsible for much of the hate and division which has increased massively since 2016. This was a cynical attempt at gaslighting the public into believing that those responsible for the hurt and hatred can somehow be trusted to heal and be a shining light for humanity. It’s all hot air, willy waving and a desperate attempt to justify the increased police powers that are no doubt coming. He is trying to divert attention from this terrible government onto an internal enemy. It won’t wash.

Very well said and I agree entirely!

I’ve now heard and read his speech. Yes, well written, well read speech, but utterly pointless and simply to enforce that he’s a “good bloke” He’s a rich bloke, living in a different universe to most of us!

No doubt this will simply lead to more penalties for those choosing to protest.

Sunak probably is a nice bloke, but he cannot read the nation! We need a GE and we need this govt to recognise they’ve caused many of the divides started very nicely by Cameron!

MayBee70

Cossy
Maremia

What we want is a General Election.

I’d say want and need!
Todays ‘ address to the nation’ was just electioneering. Imo

Completely agree