To think that London, or anywhere else for that matter, does not belong to any one demographic

Yes Maddy because they are Jews, no other reason

maddyone and Iam64 👏👏👏

maddyone

The women with the pictures of the paragliders sewn on to the back of their coats depicting and glorifying the Israeli massacre were disgusting individuals who were glorifying a proscribed organisation; Hamas. I don’t know what punishment would have been appropriate, but a token telling off certainly wasn’t enough, because in my view, it sent out a message that has been very clearly heard, and the message is that the pro Palestine protesters can say and do pretty much whatever they like, and there will be no repercussions.

Meanwhile our Jewish citizens hide in their houses every weekend.

The "Judge" who let these women off apparently celebrated Oct 7th, and liked an anti Israel post. His attitude towards these terrorist sympathisers, allowed others of that ilk to be anti semitic with impunity. Do we really want people of his mind set to be setting the law so low. No admonishment from the Bar. How predictable.

Freya5- this judge needs looking into.
My long experience of the criminal and family courts lead me to disagree with your negative assessment

Actually Freya is correct. The judge had previously liked tweets praising Hamas and/or condemning Israel. He was roundly criticised but the judiciary are a law unto themselves. It was disgraceful and he’s unfit to be a judge.

I agreed with Freya’s criticism of this Judge. Celebrating the Hamas attacks, ‘liking’ an antisemitic post is of concern, especially when combined with his decisions on the offensive parachute coats
I disagreed with conclusion that the Bar not admonishing the Judge on this occasion was ‘predictable’

Going back to the fact that so many Jewish people now view London as a "no go zone" for them Clearly an unacceptable state of affairs. Something needs to be done, more effective marshalling by the people that organise the marches, it's not acceptabl to allow hate speech such as that directed at this man to continue, otherwise it could be said these marches are out of control. The freedom to protest should come with responsibilities.

tickingbird

Actually Freya is correct. The judge had previously liked tweets praising Hamas and/or condemning Israel. He was roundly criticised but the judiciary are a law unto themselves. It was disgraceful and he’s unfit to be a judge.

and of course that is part of the problem a Judge should be impartial not partisan, so one can appreciate the Jewish point of view, when they state that when wrongs are committed against them as a demographic, these are not taken as seriously as they would be for other minorities. There's definitely a subliminal attitude amongst some that Jews all come from a place of privilege and they deserve whatever comes their way because unless they openly demonstrate their support for Palestine, then they must represent whatever stance the Israeli government is taking.

Iam64

I agreed with Freya’s criticism of this Judge. Celebrating the Hamas attacks, ‘liking’ an antisemitic post is of concern, especially when combined with his decisions on the offensive parachute coats
I disagreed with conclusion that the Bar not admonishing the Judge on this occasion was ‘predictable’

With your knowledge of such matters I accept your reasoning, thank you. What I would like to know is why he was not suspended, is that the right term. Seemingly blatant anti semetism escapes critcism from the Bar. No wonder the public have little respect for such actions from the,supposedly, independant, non biased Judiciary, when people with his views bring it into disrepute.

I understand that judges are advised not to use social media. I believe that they are advised to close down all/any social media accounts that they have.

If the pro-Palestine marchers are simply exercising their right to peaceful protest, then an "openly Jewish" man shouldn't feel or be intimidated by them, even if he is a journalist with an agenda. And, if he is a journalist, he's doing his job as one.

Jewish people live in London, it is their home. Are we now telling them that they must stay hidden when these marches take place?

The fault lies with those on the march who are not there for peaceful protest.

It has a horrible 1930s feel about it.

Germanshepherdsmum

He is a journalist Annie. He wants publicity for his cause.

I agree with you GSM. Sky has shown a longer version of what happened. The man was walking against the flow of the march when the police stopped him. The protestors were actually ignoring him, but the police were concerned for his safety and repeatedly offered to escort him across the road. He had, in fact, already been on the other side of the road and had crossed back again. The police had noticed his movements and were concerned that he was trying to provoke the protestors.

A rewrite of all of the video

Or an explanation of the bigger picture.

Definitely a rewrite

growstuff I have seen the full video.

London streets are either safe for all, or safe for none.

This was blatant antisemitism, curtailing the rights of a Jewish person to walk freely in London just the same as the pro-Palestinian marchers…

Why defend anti semitism

Have anyone seen the Sky video? If you haven't I suggest you should. IMO It demonstrates that Gideon Falter wanted to walk through the march with his small group of followers videoing in the hope that someone in the crowd would do something newsworthy. He's not just walking home from the synagogue on his way home. The police officer explains why he wants him not to and there is nothing anti semitic about his reasoning, his job is to keep the peace and prevent disorder. Suella was interviewed this morning she'd not seen the whole video either. These marches have been generally good humoured and peaceful with a few incidents that should not happen. Why would a group of Jewish men who were not supportive of the march want to walk straight through the middle to cross the road and argue with the police when politely asked not to?

Vintagewhine

Have anyone seen the Sky video? If you haven't I suggest you should. IMO It demonstrates that Gideon Falter wanted to walk through the march with his small group of followers videoing in the hope that someone in the crowd would do something newsworthy. He's not just walking home from the synagogue on his way home. The police officer explains why he wants him not to and there is nothing anti semitic about his reasoning, his job is to keep the peace and prevent disorder. Suella was interviewed this morning she'd not seen the whole video either. These marches have been generally good humoured and peaceful with a few incidents that should not happen. Why would a group of Jewish men who were not supportive of the march want to walk straight through the middle to cross the road and argue with the police when politely asked not to?

I have seen the full video.

As I posted earlier, London is either open for all ethnicities and religions or it is closed for all.

Apparently it is closed for Jews, which to me means blatant antisemitism..

You are now accusing Gideon and his fellow Jewish friends as lying as you do not be the was on his way back from his synagogue?

believe

Nothing anti semitic , telling a Jew who is wearing a kippah
‘ you are openly Jewish’ ?

Anniebach

Nothing anti semitic , telling a Jew who is wearing a kippah
‘ you are openly Jewish’ ?

It’s frightening Anniebach

We have many Jewish friends, they are saddened and so disheartened by what is happening, especially here in London.

GrannyGravy it leaves me in tears, Lili Ebert who survived the Holocaust said in an interview when asked if the holocaust
Could happen again replied ‘it is now’

One of my Jewish friends lost relatives and friends on 7/10. He said - it feels like the Holocaust
He isn’t given to dramatising, a calm individual in any crisis

Anniebach

GrannyGravy it leaves me in tears, Lili Ebert who survived the Holocaust said in an interview when asked if the holocaust
Could happen again replied ‘it is now’

I am currently reading her book Lily’s Promise, a difficult read but I think it should be a required read on the school curriculum.