To think that London, or anywhere else for that matter, does not belong to any one demographic

Parsley3

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GF doesn't blame the front line officers. This is what he says about it.

This interview was done before the Sky Video became available. It's clear his agenda is to get the marches banned or the Commissioner to resign, perhaps both? The police officer was bang on, he's being disingenuous and I would say that about him regardless of his colour, religion or ethnicity. Why didn't he just tell the truth? He had Tommy Robinson banned from the area when he organised his march against anti semitism (which I totally agreed with) then he turns up at the pro Palestinian march (not for the first time) even though he wants it banned. Just be honest, open and straight forward Mr Falter then you don't get yourself in a pickle!

Someone wearing a kippah can certainly be assumed to be a
Jew, but openly Jewish ? Not secretly Jewish

I think thats a question I'd like to ask too Growstuff

"Given that this man and his bodyguards had been observed trying to get himself into the crowd and had been hanging around for a while (he wasn't just on a walk home), what do you think the police should have done?"

Anniebach

He gave his views, it’s how he thinks

So how else does somebody wearing a kippah look?

The police officer was concerned for the safety of a man who had been observed acting strangely.

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Saying someone is openly Jewish is clumsy at best, ignorant at worst, he should not have said it.

If the police officer had said openly black or openly muslim we would be having an entirely different conversation along with protests outside police stations.

Are you sure? In those circumstances, the police officer might not say it, but you can bet that's what (s)he'd be thinking?

Given that this man and his bodyguards had been observed trying to get himself into the crowd and had been hanging around for a while (he wasn't just on a walk home), what do you think the police should have done?

Exactly, growstuff. Some are trying to defend the indefensible.

growstuff George Galloway says similar to you

Anniebach

He gave his views, it’s how he thinks

You can’t possibly say what he thinks based on his having said ‘openly Jewish’. You have pounced on the word ‘openly’ but you know exactly what he meant - marchers were shouting antisemitic words at GF, who was clearly Jewish, and his supporters and the policeman knew that if they walked into the march, he being very obviously Jewish, he and his friends were at great risk of being harmed. If the policeman was an antisemite he would just have left them to take their chances - but he didn’t, he tried to keep them from harm. How many times have I said that? I wonder how many policemen, under pressure and faced with those particular circumstances, would have spoken words which satisfied you Annie? It isn’t a time for social niceties. It’s a time for carrying out their duty to protect the public, no matter how difficult the public may be.

GrannyGravy13

Saying someone is openly Jewish is clumsy at best, ignorant at worst, he should not have said it.

If the police officer had said openly black or openly muslim we would be having an entirely different conversation along with protests outside police stations.

Are you sure? In those circumstances, the police officer might not say it, but you can bet that's what (s)he'd be thinking?

Given that this man and his bodyguards had been observed trying to get himself into the crowd and had been hanging around for a while (he wasn't just on a walk home), what do you think the police should have done?

We all have our views and have expressed them on this thread, but above it all, I feel sorry for the ordinary Jewish citizens in this country who find themselves caught up in a situation not of their making. Most of them probably stay indoors on Saturdays, apart from a visit to their synagogue if they’re religious. Today is Passover I believe, and I wish this awful situation would pass over as soon as possible.

He gave his views, it’s how he thinks

Saying someone is openly Jewish is clumsy at best, ignorant at worst, he should not have said it.

If the police officer had said openly black or openly muslim we would be having an entirely different conversation along with protests outside police stations.

Thousands of people? Even after the Sky video, showing the entire exchange rather than GF’s deliberately misleading version? Who are these thousands of people? What evidence do you have of thousands of people not having changed their minds after they were shown what really happened?

My sensibilities? Nasty slurring of a police officer doing his duty? You are obviously quite happy with that. I hope you are never in need of the protection he afforded to GF and his mates.

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He's an educated man and realises that the front line police are just doing their job with orders from people way above thier rank. Strange then that many on here are blaming the police when GF himself doesn't.

I form my own opinions, I doubt anyone believes those on the ground make the decisions, my criticism of the police officer
is of the ‘openly Jewish’ comment

GSM

The views you have expressed about this policeman are quite abhorrent Annie. I get the impression that you have it in for the Met. This is just one man trying to do his best to do his duty in a very difficult situation. You can think what you like but I find your stated opinion that he is antisemitic, because he didn’t choose two words carefully enough for you during this long exchange, disgraceful. I would have expected better of you.

Who are you to lecture Annie on her views? You find her comments disgraceful because the officer didn’t choose two words carefully enough for her???

He didn’t choose his words carefully enough for thousands of people otherwise there wouldn’t be such a furore.

Annie doesn’t have to pander to your sensibilities so I suggest it’s you that should modify your posts not Annie.

Anniebach

eazbee Rowley thinks some remarks from the police officer were offensive, I say the same, seems everyone agrees with me !

Rowley isn’t going anywhere, he has the mayors full support,
election for London mayor soon

Everyone seems to agree with you? I don’t think so. Try reading the thread.

Too little too late parsley. GF’s edited video constituted condemnation of the officer who was trying to protect him, and he has called for the resignation of the Met Commissioner. It has been shown upthread that he has previously discredited himself, trying to get a civil servant sacked. The Sky video showed the truth of the matter. No point in trying to row back now.

eazbee Rowley thinks some remarks from the police officer were offensive, I say the same, seems everyone agrees with me !

Rowley isn’t going anywhere, he has the mayors full support,
election for London mayor soon

He's an educated man and realises that the front line police are just doing their job with orders from people way above thier rank. Strange then that many on here are blaming the police when GF himself doesn't.

The views you have expressed about this policeman are quite abhorrent Annie. I get the impression that you have it in for the Met. This is just one man trying to do his best to do his duty in a very difficult situation. You can think what you like but I find your stated opinion that he is antisemitic, because he didn’t choose two words carefully enough for you during this long exchange, disgraceful. I would have expected better of you.

Annie, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
The police officer was doing his job which involves dealing with far more obstructive and aggressive people than Gideon Falter, and his words were ill-chosen and inappropriate. He most certainly is not a victim, and I am not impressed by Mark Rowley's comments today either.

Thank you Parsley

Charging on horseback at miners was not as peaceful as possible, I am realistic, there are some great police officers but not all are, same as in every walk of life

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GF doesn't blame the front line officers. This is what he says about it.

No problem Iam64 I remember how annoyed my DH was on behalf of the miners but they tried to do the job as peacefully as possible.

Good grief, a police officer in the Met, certainly not a new recruit , doubt it was his first march, very much doubt he was
stressed. I have my opinions, views and beliefs, don’t tell others how they should think or why they think as they do,