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Should Gransnet delay the first posts from new posters?

(58 Posts)
Elegran Sat 20-Apr-24 08:30:34

The vast majority of new posters on Gransnet just want to chat to other people like themselves or ask for advice from people who have had similar experiences to them, but from time to time a spammer or worse joins with the single purpose of disrupting the normal running of the forums.

Would it be a good idea for posts and new threads from an unrecognised username to be held back for a cooling period from they are added? It could be until the new account has been checked to be genuine, or just for a set length of time. either of these could make bots/spammers/trolls less keen to post their rubbish/spam/poison.

Marydoll Sat 20-Apr-24 12:20:43

Theexwife

How would it be checked to be genuine?

It just needs one person to report, why do so many others report a thread when someone has already stated reported.

Sometimes HQ don't respond and take hours to delete the thread.

Elegran Sat 20-Apr-24 12:19:20

Athrawes

Oh dear! I've been on Gransnet for some time but don't contribute much though I find many of the topics very interesting. I hope I can still stay!

Some websites automatically check a new member's email address and their device "callsign" against those of known troublemakers, both on that site and in online lists of spammers and trolls (that is more or less how banks etc know that it is not a good idea for you to send money to certain ibdividuals organisations) If that were done, many would never reach the point of actually posting.

Theexwife Sat 20-Apr-24 11:54:29

How would it be checked to be genuine?

It just needs one person to report, why do so many others report a thread when someone has already stated reported.

MissAdventure Sat 20-Apr-24 11:52:37

Should have said "Some people". smile

Baggs Sat 20-Apr-24 11:50:17

Who is this "they"? HQ? GN-ers?

petra Sat 20-Apr-24 11:49:34

Whethertomorrow

I think admin have enough of a difficult job without making them vet every new poster or post.

I know, it must be exhausting 😱

MissAdventure Sat 20-Apr-24 11:47:58

Then they complain that their time has been wasted. smile

Baggs Sat 20-Apr-24 11:46:15

I don't think HQ can have one rule for new posters and one for old hands.

If a post arouses suspicions, report it. I sometimes see that someone has posted that they've reported a post but people carry on responding to it rather than just ignoring it until it's dealt with.

Whethertomorrow Sat 20-Apr-24 11:43:05

I think admin have enough of a difficult job without making them vet every new poster or post.

Galaxy Sat 20-Apr-24 11:40:40

MissAdventure

No.
It's a chat site, not a new job.

I want GN to be my new job, I would be quite dedicated. Why is there not a job that involves me faffing about on the internet all day.

Purplepixie Sat 20-Apr-24 11:39:46

I agree with Marydoll

rafichagran Sat 20-Apr-24 11:38:06

MissAdventure

I saw a few of those ones, too.
Its pretty obvious what the motive is in those cases.

Its spam.

True, this morning was the worst I have ever seen it.

MissAdventure Sat 20-Apr-24 11:22:42

I saw a few of those ones, too.
Its pretty obvious what the motive is in those cases.

Its spam.

rafichagran Sat 20-Apr-24 11:20:05

This morning was horrendous, I saw one title about witches and did not read further.
I think it is a good idea re bots,trolls ect, but admin must act quickly as a new poster should not have to wait long for what they have written to be posted, especially a genuine one who maybe unwell, or crying out for advice.

MissAdventure Sat 20-Apr-24 11:06:10

People often remark that someone is "new', when they're not at all.

Nobody knows who someone is, or what motive they may have.
In which case, we have a forum full of psychics.

Sarnia Sat 20-Apr-24 11:03:22

One thing I would like GNHQ to add are ways to respond to a post instead of a written reply. A bit like Facebook with likes, loves, sad faces etc.

MissAdventure Sat 20-Apr-24 10:59:57

No.
It's a chat site, not a new job.

Witzend Sat 20-Apr-24 10:59:09

Me too, Marydoll, re long posts with no paragraphs. I just can’t be bothered to wade through them.

I don’t really see why new posters should wait. It’s usually easy enough to spot the non-genuine.

pascal30 Sat 20-Apr-24 10:56:39

NotSpaghetti

I don't think so. I'd rather there was some rubbish on here than new posters had to wait.

I agree..

Athrawes Sat 20-Apr-24 10:50:56

Oh dear! I've been on Gransnet for some time but don't contribute much though I find many of the topics very interesting. I hope I can still stay!

Elegran Sat 20-Apr-24 09:12:23

NotSpaghetti

I don't think so. I'd rather there was some rubbish on here than new posters had to wait.

An automatic check that the new poster had not previously been banned under a different name would not take long - about as long as the bot took to join GN and start their 80-odd new threads.

Elegran Sat 20-Apr-24 09:10:04

Siope

The simplest way, surely, to stop the bots’ posts being so visible is to report them without commenting, and for posters to comment (even if it’s just ‘bump’) on other threads so they rise to the top of their relevant forum and appear instead in ‘active’.

I agree, Siope. By starting new threads on the AIBU topic we are extending that policy (well, I am - I assume others may join me soon). The latest botfest was under AIBU so these threads are pushing the whole of the bot's missives down out of sight. As long as no-one else posts on one of them, it will stay down.

If the title of the bot-thread is still visible it is a temptation to other posters to read it and post - and not every poster is aware that a new post on a thread moves it up to top position. I am trying to spread that knowledge to everyone by having threads at the top of the AIBU topic (and thus of the whole list ) which point that out.

NotSpaghetti Sat 20-Apr-24 09:06:50

I don't think so. I'd rather there was some rubbish on here than new posters had to wait.

Elegran Sat 20-Apr-24 09:00:41

It is not the "few idiots" that are the most trouble. It is the professional "influencers" who use automatic artificially created posts and bulk spam posting to stifle real posters. They are a menace on all social media sites - and also on other genuine internet sites too, where they can maliciously close down sites with their activities. This is the bad side of the freedom of the internet. Not resisting it is tantamount to collusion.

Siope Sat 20-Apr-24 08:57:57

The simplest way, surely, to stop the bots’ posts being so visible is to report them without commenting, and for posters to comment (even if it’s just ‘bump’) on other threads so they rise to the top of their relevant forum and appear instead in ‘active’.