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Should Gransnet delay the first posts from new posters?

(58 Posts)
Elegran Sat 20-Apr-24 08:30:34

The vast majority of new posters on Gransnet just want to chat to other people like themselves or ask for advice from people who have had similar experiences to them, but from time to time a spammer or worse joins with the single purpose of disrupting the normal running of the forums.

Would it be a good idea for posts and new threads from an unrecognised username to be held back for a cooling period from they are added? It could be until the new account has been checked to be genuine, or just for a set length of time. either of these could make bots/spammers/trolls less keen to post their rubbish/spam/poison.

mae13 Sun 21-Apr-24 19:00:28

A worthwhile proposal. Trolls are dedicated to being negative and obviously trying to cause psychological damage.

This would be a good idea.

Wheniwasyourage Sun 21-Apr-24 17:56:10

On the other hand, sometimes it's quite quick. I've reported 2 today as spam and they've been removed quickly. Of course, they were both through the day, and some of the rubbish has been appearing in the evenings.

At least if someone says that they have reported something, it should be a message to others not to keep adding to the spam thread or replying to the spam post.

Marydoll Sun 21-Apr-24 17:17:13

It can take hours for SPAM to be removed. It all depends if any Mods are on duty.

Macadia Sun 21-Apr-24 17:10:06

After spam is reported, it still remains visible. Should it not be moved to a quarantine section for admins to evaluate rather than taking up space in the forums?

A captcha picture challenge before posting might stop a bot.

Oreo Sun 21-Apr-24 16:51:43

If the site only relies on members reporting posts then it’s not likely to suddenly start policing threads.

Germanshepherdsmum Sun 21-Apr-24 15:36:18

I think it’s impossible to vet new posters but at least GN respond to reports. I have received unwanted pestering PMs today from a new poster (I think a man) who I hope GN will ban.

BlueBelle Sun 21-Apr-24 12:38:44

I disagree Nanna8 lots of forums have a delay while you are approved it is a fairly simple process I think and would save not only this midnight rush but the long convoluting posts that might well be genuine but get a poor reception because they sound so far out
A lot of posters don’t answer these long involved posts or say ‘I think this is a bot’ which can be harsh if it’s just a worried person not expressing themselves very well
Even in real life things are rarely instant you have to apply and be approved and hopefully we are only talking about hours or a day or so at the most and the admins wouldn’t have nearly so much to do as they would nt be getting loads of us reporting posts
Well that’s my take on it anyway

nanna8 Sun 21-Apr-24 12:23:28

I think new posters would find it very discouraging and would quite probably leave. I would have. The adverts are very obvious and so are the daft ones from young people having a laugh.

Wheniwasyourage Sun 21-Apr-24 11:55:19

What do you mean, BlueBelle, by calling me wheniwasyoung?? I'm not that far into my 70s, so still young!! (Not) grin

LucyAnna Sun 21-Apr-24 07:02:52

Bump

BlueBelle Sun 21-Apr-24 06:58:13

wheniwasyoung there was about 20 yesterday

Wheniwasyourage Sun 21-Apr-24 06:55:02

I assume the two weird threads making their way down the Active list this morning are like the ones people were complaining about yesterday, are they? I missed all the excitement then! I don’t know if a delay would help, but then a bit of checking on the part of GNHQ wouldn’t be a bad thing.

Greyisnotmycolour Sat 20-Apr-24 23:20:35

Being someone who believes in democracy I don't agree with a delaying period. The current users of the site will decide. The response,s or lack of them, from the OP or other contributors work fine in either supporting the OP or dissuading them from further posts, in other words we police ourselves which I think if for the best. We are a bunch of mature adults capable of making our own decisions, not a bunch of weak, vulnerable old folk in need of protection.

BlueBelle Sat 20-Apr-24 23:11:30

I agree with you Elegran no one’s talking about days waiting nearly everything you join on FB needs to be approved and it normally takes an hour or two
Other local chat groups I have been on required a check of new members before the g ahead to post

Anyway just saying but they are all starting again tonight there are a load more just arriving as we speak

Farmor15 Sat 20-Apr-24 23:02:40

I agree with Elegran - there are other discussion forums where there is a delay after joining before you can post. But if someone has been a member for a while but hasn't posted previously, they should be allowed to post without any delay. The spam posters presumably join and post immediately.

Marydoll Sat 20-Apr-24 23:00:18

And again! He must have lot of time on his hands or is so useless, that he needs to tout on Gransnet for business.

merlotgran Sat 20-Apr-24 22:52:31

Bump again.

Grandmafrench Sat 20-Apr-24 22:19:12

Just bumping 🙄

Elegran Sat 20-Apr-24 16:45:46

Those checks are made automatically and instantly - no delay.

If you try to post on some interest groups on Facebook, there may be a pause before your post appears. They don't publicise just what they are monitoring posts for, or what checks they are running on them, but the moderators of each group has the power to block unwanted applicants. Gransnet is very lightly moderated - but that is not the usual case.

Elegran Sat 20-Apr-24 16:40:30

grandtanteJE65

I cannot believe anyone would seriously suggest not posting new posters immediately or endorse the suggestion.

Who exactly do you feel is qualified to carry out this form of censorship?

If new posters can survive the frequently very nasty reception some old-timers on this forum give them, then I doubt "a cooling off period" would deter them.

If a neutral check is made on an application to join, by a bit of programming (aka an algorhythm) that compares their email address and the "callsign" of the device on which it is applying (every device has one!!) with a list of known trollers and spammers (yes, lists exist too) and the application turned down or referred to moderators if there is a match, then NO-ONE needs to be personally "qualified".

How on earth do you think that my bank knew to advise me that a money transfer I had tried to make was to a website that was known to be dodgy? By comparing the details of the recipient of every transfer with a list of those that should not be trusted, that is how.

MissAdventure Sat 20-Apr-24 15:19:57

It includes weeding out the kind of people who make up the most boring, samey, every day problems.

You have to knock at their door, disguised as a shrub, then see if a little old grey haired vision peers out the window.

Dickens Sat 20-Apr-24 14:59:00

Galaxy

MissAdventure

No.
It's a chat site, not a new job.

I want GN to be my new job, I would be quite dedicated. Why is there not a job that involves me faffing about on the internet all day.

🤣🤣

grandtanteJE65 Sat 20-Apr-24 14:42:38

I cannot believe anyone would seriously suggest not posting new posters immediately or endorse the suggestion.

Who exactly do you feel is qualified to carry out this form of censorship?

If new posters can survive the frequently very nasty reception some old-timers on this forum give them, then I doubt "a cooling off period" would deter them.

PamelaJ1 Sat 20-Apr-24 14:26:06

Theexwife

How would it be checked to be genuine?

It just needs one person to report, why do so many others report a thread when someone has already stated reported.

I just presume that if there is more than one post then it means it has been reported so I don’t click on it.
Some of the threads this morning didn’t need reporting IMO because there were so many I thought the powers that be couldn’t miss them. Was I wrong?

NotSpaghetti Sat 20-Apr-24 12:51:27

Elegran -that wouldn't need any delay though, would it?