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WFA, bus pass, triple lock,

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Grandmaofone Fri 02-Aug-24 11:21:58

there is currently a thread on MN entitled :
‘Genuine question re pensioner fuel payment cut’

I was so shocked by many of the replies I had to come here to ask AIBU to think this is divisive, patronising, dangerous even, when the well off will not only consider the lives of the poorer pensioners,
but want to remove the few benefits of old age including the bus pass ?
It was like reading the loathing-for-pensioners comments on the DM, disturbing, disrespectful, a little frightening actually that we are so dismissed.

Mollygo Tue 20-Aug-24 08:49:12

NanaTuesday it was certainly a daily achievement getting those nappies out, though my only acquaintance with a Baby Burco was the one that turned the staff room into a sauna boiling water for break time teas.
I was excited to have a small spindryer for them back then. It had a strict instruction
nicht in de laufende trommel grifen under the lid and it danced across the floor.

I don’t remember complaints about the nappies, rather the discussions about the weather so you could hang them out, but then we didn’t have ready access to complain to the world then.

NanaTuesday Tue 20-Aug-24 07:46:17

westendgirl

Yes and we had huge interest rates,no maternity leave. (I had to resign from my teaching post), no child allowance for the first child, heavy pushchairs which had to be collapsed when getting on buses,the cheap flights and holidays were difficult to get if you were a single mum with one child.Mortgages were 2 1/2 times salary with no exceptions.Power cuts, towelling nappies to boil, and so it goes on . I think most generations have their difficulties.

Westendgirl
I read your response with a smile at the “ Terry Nappies & Heavy Pushchairs “
I’m not sure though that was something we complained about , those white nappies on the washing line after being boiled in the obligatory Baby Burco after having been in a bucket soaking in Napisan , those were the days ! I actually as a young Mum recall those days with much affection 😘

Shinamae Wed 14-Aug-24 09:39:18

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DiamondLily Mon 12-Aug-24 18:09:13

Every generation has its struggles. There was no maternity payments, guaranteed jobs back, childcare funding and benefits for everything when my children were born.

I’ve had my WFA stopped, even though I pay taxes on pensions.

But, that’s life, and I’ll get on with it.

David49 Mon 12-Aug-24 17:54:28

I hope there are not more than 25% of pensioners on additional benefits, if there are then they will get the WFA which is fine by me.
The government is not there to give WFA or any other handout to those well off pensioners that don’t need it.

Doodledog Mon 12-Aug-24 09:59:43

That sounds horrific, mae.

Can people be put in a home against their will?

pascal30 Mon 12-Aug-24 09:45:42

mae13

David49

Not all pensioners are rich boomers but I would guess 75%+ could manage perfectly well without the age related benefits.
It saves £billions which can be spent where it really matters, changes are long overdue and the have to be made fairly.

80 is the new 60 the benefit system has to reflect the lifespan we live today.

75%? Wow, that's pretty generous.
Well, the government had better do something pretty drastic, pretty damn soon or a hefty percentage on this thread will be having to look forward to surviving (and that's the correct word) in a penny-pinching 'care' home that will suck your financial assets dry in return for no dignity, no privacy, no autonomy.

In the Covid crisis I was 'dumped' in one, supposedly while my mobility returned and suitable adaptations were being made to my home. For "only 6 weeks".

20 months later (thanks Social Services) I'd sold my bungalow and made my own arrangements to escape.

I think I'd maybe die before going through that again - I often wonder what's happening to the residents I left behind, with no means or the mental capacity to leave the dreadful place.

Thank goodness for that Mael.. where did you escape to?

Cadeby Mon 12-Aug-24 08:40:02

He is a man of integrity

Good to have a little chuckle on a Monday morning I suppose.

Mollygo Mon 12-Aug-24 08:36:04

Iam64

And we wonder why there is conflict and unrest - when Some People believe nonsense

And some people experience the truth that others don’t see or hear about except in the media.
Not believing a truth that doesn’t affect you is a root cause of conflict and unrest.

mae13 Mon 12-Aug-24 08:11:01

David49

Not all pensioners are rich boomers but I would guess 75%+ could manage perfectly well without the age related benefits.
It saves £billions which can be spent where it really matters, changes are long overdue and the have to be made fairly.

80 is the new 60 the benefit system has to reflect the lifespan we live today.

75%? Wow, that's pretty generous.
Well, the government had better do something pretty drastic, pretty damn soon or a hefty percentage on this thread will be having to look forward to surviving (and that's the correct word) in a penny-pinching 'care' home that will suck your financial assets dry in return for no dignity, no privacy, no autonomy.

In the Covid crisis I was 'dumped' in one, supposedly while my mobility returned and suitable adaptations were being made to my home. For "only 6 weeks".

20 months later (thanks Social Services) I'd sold my bungalow and made my own arrangements to escape.

I think I'd maybe die before going through that again - I often wonder what's happening to the residents I left behind, with no means or the mental capacity to leave the dreadful place.

Iam64 Mon 12-Aug-24 08:05:45

And we wonder why there is conflict and unrest - when Some People believe nonsense

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Aug-24 07:41:50

😄😄

MayBee70 Mon 12-Aug-24 06:06:26

Whitewavemark2

BevSec

MayBee70, that has been quoted so many times. He got
Brexit done and was a charismatic leader. He is a man of integrity. Keir Starmer was photographed in some sort of similar setting anyway during lockdowm, eating a takeaway I believe with beer, in company. Boris was a giant brought down by pygmies.

I don’t know even where to start here😄😄

So I won’t

Well, he was certainly on the large side compared to most of his colleagues….

Whitewavemark2 Mon 12-Aug-24 06:00:15

BevSec

MayBee70, that has been quoted so many times. He got
Brexit done and was a charismatic leader. He is a man of integrity. Keir Starmer was photographed in some sort of similar setting anyway during lockdowm, eating a takeaway I believe with beer, in company. Boris was a giant brought down by pygmies.

I don’t know even where to start here😄😄

So I won’t

David49 Mon 12-Aug-24 05:58:14

www.bbc.co.uk/news/64430216

For the sake of accuracy despite a lot of noise the UK quotas have increased since Brexit, there have been some losses and gains overall it’s up.

vegansrock Mon 12-Aug-24 05:24:36

The fishing industry has been wiped out by Brexit, which is a bit ironic. As for BJ being a “man of integrity” !! Words fail- all the evidence points to him being a lazy liar who cheated on numerous partners and the worse PM for decades , even counting Liz Truss .

MayBee70 Sun 11-Aug-24 23:17:19

Dinahmo

MayBee70

Can anyone tell me what has happened to British fishing since Brexit? Especially as Farage was so involved with the industry. It doesn’t really get a mention.

That's because it's virtually disappeared.

But I thought fishing was one of the main reasons for Brexit? Farage on his boat on the Thames etc.

Dinahmo Sun 11-Aug-24 23:04:17

MayBee70

Can anyone tell me what has happened to British fishing since Brexit? Especially as Farage was so involved with the industry. It doesn’t really get a mention.

That's because it's virtually disappeared.

BevSec Sat 10-Aug-24 21:23:32

Iam64, all of it! I preferred our commonwealth links. I do respect that others feel very differently though and respect that.

MayBee70 Sat 10-Aug-24 21:19:23

Can anyone tell me what has happened to British fishing since Brexit? Especially as Farage was so involved with the industry. It doesn’t really get a mention.

Deedaa Sat 10-Aug-24 20:11:04

I think many of the fishermen have changed their minds about Brexit now they have felt the full effect. Boris is the man who wrote a very detailed account of the benefits of EU membership and why we should stay, and then switched to leave to further his own ambitions.

Iam64 Sat 10-Aug-24 19:56:33

Which bit of the EU and all its doings do yiu hate?

BevSec Sat 10-Aug-24 18:50:53

We all have and are entitled to have our opinions. He is certainly a Marmite character! There are plenty of more erudite and intelligent people than me who were in favour of Brexit. I live in a fishing town and after the vote there were signs all round the harbour by the fishermen saying thank you for voting to leave. It made me feel really tearful and so glad we had voted that way. I love
Europe but hate the EU and all its doings.

Oldbat1 Sat 10-Aug-24 14:01:26

BevSec

MayBee70, that has been quoted so many times. He got
Brexit done and was a charismatic leader. He is a man of integrity. Keir Starmer was photographed in some sort of similar setting anyway during lockdowm, eating a takeaway I believe with beer, in company. Boris was a giant brought down by pygmies.

I take your comments as being a joke??? BJ has lied and lied throughout his life. As for Brexit what a total disaster. Please tell me one benefit. I despair I really do over BJ and his utter contempt of Parliament and his behaviour. Entitled entitled entitled and b****r everyone else.

MayBee70 Sat 10-Aug-24 13:50:10

He threw out most of the decent Conservative MP’s and those he didn’t throw out refused to serve under him anyway. I can’t think of any Conservative MP’s that have a good word to say about him apart from Nadine Dorries. He destroyed the party.