We had to have indoor shoes to change into at school.
Can you imagine the furore if that was a school rule now?
Husband I think is looking for divorce after 50 years.
Just been reading the thread about dogs in cafes. Another thing that annoys me hygiene wise is children sat in shopping trolleys. Not toddlers sat in the proper seat but actually IN the trolley with their shoes on
We had to have indoor shoes to change into at school.
Can you imagine the furore if that was a school rule now?
Perhaps it could cover why outdoor shoes are not appropriate in some areas.
Well said, Rosies (again!). I even got my kids involved in politics when supermarket shopping. DD1 would have been 6 or 7 at the time, old enough to read labels anyway. I told her and her sister to go and choose some apples while I was looking for something else in the same aisle. I said, "Not South African ones", so that dates it a bit.
They brought me some apples and then DD1 said loud and clear: "That man is buying South African apples!" I replied: "His choice" and left it at that though I had explained why I didn't want SA apples and they understood the basic tenet.
So, yeah, shopping with kids can cover a lot of ideas!!
The trolley park at the supermarket where I do my big shop runs directly along the car park, so cars back in and out all day. There’s a cat frequents the little Asda supermarket and, if often lulling about in an abandoned trolley. And just like week, the town Facebook page was trying to identify a man who had urinated along the trollies at Sainsbury’s.
Between exhaust fumes, the cat, and actual human wee, children’s shoes don’t seem so bad.
Quokka
Nanna58
I’m sure even from a distance of time we can remember the stresses of shopping with children, so perhaps we could cut today’s parents some slack over a relatively minor issue of hygiene
I can remember from recently looking after three small grandchildren. What happened to a touch of discipline? Or creativity?
Give the children something to look for? Involving them rather than seeing their company as a nuisance?
Sorry but lazy parenting includes other issues such as children entering school still in nappies.
I see plenty of children with mums or dads in shops behaving well. The large majority in fact.
But there are some parents glued to their mobiles, pushing buggies and ignoring the child. Cut these some slack? Really?
Thank you nanna8 for remembering the real world!
In an ideal world, yes we were practising their reading by pointing out cereal packets, colours likewise and no doubt there would have been some trendy mums who sharing the relative air miles on the back of the packets. Actually i do remember one child announcing that “M” was for Mothercare!
But a touch of discipline, or creativity implies there is none in evidence and it is all too easy to accuse parents today of lazy parenting as if we were all flippin’ Mary Poppins back in the day. And let’s not go down the rabbit hole of children in nappies - AGAIN.
I’m quite surprised from the comments on this thread that so many seem to think it’s ok. If a little person can sit in the trolley seat size wise, that’s fine, but it’s invariably older children you see in the main part of the trolley where the food goes. If they are older then as someone else said, surely by then they should know how to behave in a supermarket and not need to be restrained that way. Most of us on here are older, bringing up our children pre mobiles -you see so many young mums on their phones whilst with their children-so we I think were more ‘on the case’ behaviour wise, and I’m surprised about the current tolerance for this or the need. Of course the inside of a trolley isn’t pristine but it’s not quite the same as potentially introducing something unnecessarily unpleasant to a food space.
Nanna58
I’m sure even from a distance of time we can remember the stresses of shopping with children, so perhaps we could cut today’s parents some slack over a relatively minor issue of hygiene
I can remember from recently looking after three small grandchildren. What happened to a touch of discipline? Or creativity?
Give the children something to look for? Involving them rather than seeing their company as a nuisance?
Sorry but lazy parenting includes other issues such as children entering school still in nappies.
I see plenty of children with mums or dads in shops behaving well. The large majority in fact.
But there are some parents glued to their mobiles, pushing buggies and ignoring the child. Cut these some slack? Really?
MissAdventure
I sympathise with anyone struggling to keep a small child under some sort of control, but I don't want the soles of anyone's shoes near my shopping.
I don't mind shoes indoors, or all kinds of other things that others are squeamish about, but contact with dog poo crosses a line, to me.
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Exactly.
Mamardoit
I've probably been guilty of this in the past. Not in supermarkets but going around d b&q or similar. My reasoning would have been that the 3 or 4 year old would have been safer there than loose in the aisle.
I don't think the hygiene aspect would have crossed my mind. Slightly older children on scooters or kicking a ball around bother me more.
The nearby ASDA, in the past, felt it was necessary to post a sign forbidding the use of roller skates and skateboards in the store. How stupid do you have to be to think it's fine for kids to belt up and down the aisles on a skateboard?
I sympathise with anyone struggling to keep a small child under some sort of control, but I don't want the soles of anyone's shoes near my shopping.
I don't mind shoes indoors, or all kinds of other things that others are squeamish about, but contact with dog poo crosses a line, to me.
I agree. Children in trolleys isn’t the way to go! If they’re too big to fit in the seat, they need to be walking…..and if they are uncontrollable walking with an adult, it raises a lot of questions. Perhaps some self discipline comes into it. To me, it’s a bit like people going into supermarkets in their pyjamas….its not really harming anyone, but a line needs to drawn somewhere…
Quokka
No way! If they are small enough to sit in the seat fair enough. Otherwise it’s against health and safety anyway. These mums or dads would be the first to shout ‘compensation’ if their little dears were injured.
Against health & safety ?
Is that a written thing or do you mean common sense ahould be used ?
pandapatch
Just been reading the thread about dogs in cafes. Another thing that annoys me hygiene wise is children sat in shopping trolleys. Not toddlers sat in the proper seat but actually IN the trolley with their shoes on
Let’s look at this for a minute , Why does it annoy you ?
As others have said ,toddlers/ pre schoolers are often a trial when shopping for both parents &’other shoppers . Running amok , scooting around with mini trolleys etc etc .
For a parents piece of mind sitting them in a trolley (not in the seat ) is a safer option .
When at a large Tescos some years ago my DD & myself saw rats in the trolleys sat in the outside car park !
That’s concerning, You can now do your shop & place items directly in your own shopping bags - avoiding the items being placed directly into the trolley .
I think the OP worry is over something & nothing .
They also have signs saying no shop lifting 🥴
I don’t think children are supposed to be in the trolley for safety reasons, I’m sure supermarkets have signs indicating this.
PhilJaz
It is extremely dangerous for children to be in the main part of the trolley. If the child falls out and gets injured the parent would probably want to sue the supermarket when it is fully the parents fault
It's extremely dangerous to do many things.
Just walking along the pavement, crossing roads , being in car accidents etc cause far more deaths than shopping trolley accidents .
It is extremely dangerous for children to be in the main part of the trolley. If the child falls out and gets injured the parent would probably want to sue the supermarket when it is fully the parents fault
I get more upset about children being given free food by parents and leaving the wrappers on the shelves
Exactly
Please give parents/grandparents a break.
Life is hard enough without condemning them for where their children sit in a flipping shopping trolley!
JenniferEccles with two neurodiverse GC, as soon as they were too big to go into the seat at the front of the trolley the safest place for them was/is to sit in the trolley itself.
Both their parents and us as grandparents would/do avoid taking them to supermarkets, but sometimes it is a necessity.
JenniferEccles
Amongst all the criticisms on both sides of this discussion, only Freya5 and I have made the obvious point that supermarkets provide trolleys with child seats, so there should never be a need to put a toddler in the trolley !
And you have not acknowledged my post that a) I cannot lift my 18kilo 2yo GS into a trolley seat and b) he doesn’t fit in them (or highchairs) any more.
Iam64
Posters haven’t been confessing to toddlers in the trolly - more tired cranky 4 year olds
Abso-bloody-lutely 👏👏👏
In the big scheme of things this problem is minuscule.
Iam64
Posters haven’t been confessing to toddlers in the trolly - more tired cranky 4 year olds
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Posters haven’t been confessing to toddlers in the trolly - more tired cranky 4 year olds
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