Children in shopping trolleys

Vintagejazz my thanks to you for your thoughtful post.

mabon1

I that's all you have to grouse about, lucky you.

What a rude and totally lacking in sensitivity post. I really cannot stand people who make this kind of supercilious comment and, given the response you received, I hope you are thoroughly ashamed of yourself and will think and post more carefully in future.

I’m now trying to think what I did when I took my three under 4s shopping on a Friday morning. It was quite an adventure. We used to get a designated double decker Asda bus that set off from the pub just up the road, and of course we had to climb upstairs to sit on the front seats. I remember my two little girls helping carry the bags back home, bless ‘em. At the store I’m pretty sure the baby would have been in a sling and both girls in the trolley, one in the seat, one in the main bit, never standing up though. The alternative was DH getting a big hold-all full of shopping in after work, schlepping it through town and bringing it back on a crowded service bus. He once got distracted and got off without it - he’d to intercept the bus on its way back to town. Happy days, but life was so much simpler once we eventually got a car!

I don’t remember anyone ever criticising my poor parenting, but they probably did under their breath.

Thank you Pandapatch. .

mabon1

I that's all you have to grouse about, lucky you.

I don't understand why people post things like this. Surely this is a discussion forum and people are just airing their point of view

mabon1 I am not aware that I am 'grousing' as you put it. Just sharing a thought about the safety of children.
If it makes you feel better I am the mother of a dead child and have been widowed twice. My grandchild has brain damage. But I get on with my life as positively and as cheerfully as I possibly can. Please think before you post. My life has not been easy.

I that's all you have to grouse about, lucky you.

Correct, Cossy. I'm very well aware of that, but also aware that small children can and have fallen out of trolleys. So that is why I am against little ones being in trolleys if not in the actual seat provided.

Aldom

With regards to hygiene I would suggest that children in trolleys are the least of our worries. Trolleys are stored under overhead cover outside at night. They are open to wildlife, especially rats which are bound to frequent areas such as trolley bays, because the trolleys will carry residual food smells.
I'm against children in trolleys, but for the obvious safety reasons.
Parents need to be vigilant in supermarkets. Someone I know stepped back from looking at the shelves and fell over a small child who was sitting alone on the floor.
Thankfully the child was not hurt, but the lady broke her arm.

Well had said small child been inside the trolley that wouldn’t have happened!

With regards to hygiene I would suggest that children in trolleys are the least of our worries. Trolleys are stored under overhead cover outside at night. They are open to wildlife, especially rats which are bound to frequent areas such as trolley bays, because the trolleys will carry residual food smells.
I'm against children in trolleys, but for the obvious safety reasons.
Parents need to be vigilant in supermarkets. Someone I know stepped back from looking at the shelves and fell over a small child who was sitting alone on the floor.
Thankfully the child was not hurt, but the lady broke her arm.

Allira

Cossy

GrannyGravy13

Please give parents/grandparents a break.

Life is hard enough without condemning them for where their children sit in a flipping shopping trolley!

Absolutely!

But many of us are parents and grandparents!

It doesn't necessarily follow that we did or would put our children in the main part of the trolley.

So isn’t what we are saying more exactly
“Give other parents/grandparents a break”?
Having “been there,done that “ we could be more sympathetic and understanding and perhaps less self- righteous.
There but for the grace of God?

Oreo

GrannyGravy13

Having on occasions had to go shopping with our children, my main concern was getting out of the shop without losing my temper, my sanity or a child, putting one in the main part of the trolley was the least of my worries!

Just what I was thinking.🤔

I remember pushing one of mine round in a pushchair, juggling a full basket.

That was in the days when sweeties were at child-height at the tills. When we'd walked home I found a couple of packets of sweeties tucked in the pushchair. A two year old shoplifter 😮

GrannyGravy13

Having on occasions had to go shopping with our children, my main concern was getting out of the shop without losing my temper, my sanity or a child, putting one in the main part of the trolley was the least of my worries!

Just what I was thinking.🤔

With you there *GrannyGravy”! I don’t buy uncovered food unless it can be peeled. So really don’t see a problem in a smallish child occupying part of the trolley.

Cossy

GrannyGravy13

Please give parents/grandparents a break.

Life is hard enough without condemning them for where their children sit in a flipping shopping trolley!

Absolutely!

But many of us are parents and grandparents!

It doesn't necessarily follow that we did or would put our children in the main part of the trolley.

I rarely, if ever, see young children sitting or standing in the main parts of trolleys

I do. Quite normal around here.

Persoanlly, never even thought to question it. Never heard anyone, person or staff, say anything.

GrannyGravy13

Please give parents/grandparents a break.

Life is hard enough without condemning them for where their children sit in a flipping shopping trolley!

Absolutely!

I rarely, if ever, see young children sitting or standing in the main parts of trolleys and nowadays I'm (thankfully) not personally responsible for either toddlers or 'rising 5s'. However, I have seen notices in supermarkets asking parents not to allow children to sit or stand in trolleys, except in the special baby/toddler seat. They don't ask this as a matter of hygiene, but as a safety concern. They really don't want restless kids falling out of trolleys in their supermarkets...do we?

Quokka

No way! If they are small enough to sit in the seat fair enough. Otherwise it’s against health and safety anyway. These mums or dads would be the first to shout ‘compensation’ if their little dears were injured.

This. The sitting bits for toddlers is fine. Standing them in the main bit is not. In my view.😗

Oh yes, my DTC had wellies and all-in-ones for Forest school, pumps for PE etc.

I meant stout shoes for getting to and from school and a lighter pair of proper shoes kept by your peg in the cloakroom for wearing inside the school premises. As well as tennis shoes, hockey boots etc.

Allira

We had to have indoor shoes to change into at school.
Can you imagine the furore if that was a school rule now?

My grandchildren’s primary school has shelves where the children (aged 3-11 years) store gym shoes, wellies, waterproofs etc. They change footwear and outdoor clothes depending on the activity. They have a Forrest area, ducks and hens who produce ducklings and chicks who are attached to a named class. There are also two ponies
So
Not only expected to change shoes also clothes on occasion

There's no way I'd be able to jump in a shopping trolley with both feet.

It never ceases to amaze how some people jump in with both feet

Exactly.
Judgemental, dismissive, out of touch with reality.
The “rabbit hole “reference was to the loooooooooong thread about potty training - one of many over the years- and on which subject more than enough words had been expended.
Your clear implication was that both discipline and creativity are lacking in todays parents when supermarket shopping with their children. And you seem to have missed the relevance of the Mary Poppins reference completely.
Not only jumping in with both feet, but brandishing the wrong end of the stick, it seems.
None so judgemental as those who see themselves as above criticism.

RosiesMaw2

Quokka

Nanna58

I’m sure even from a distance of time we can remember the stresses of shopping with children, so perhaps we could cut today’s parents some slack over a relatively minor issue of hygiene

I can remember from recently looking after three small grandchildren. What happened to a touch of discipline? Or creativity?
Give the children something to look for? Involving them rather than seeing their company as a nuisance?
Sorry but lazy parenting includes other issues such as children entering school still in nappies.
I see plenty of children with mums or dads in shops behaving well. The large majority in fact.
But there are some parents glued to their mobiles, pushing buggies and ignoring the child. Cut these some slack? Really?

Thank you nanna8 for remembering the real world!
In an ideal world, yes we were practising their reading by pointing out cereal packets, colours likewise and no doubt there would have been some trendy mums who sharing the relative air miles on the back of the packets. Actually i do remember one child announcing that “M” was for Mothercare!
But a touch of discipline, or creativity implies there is none in evidence and it is all too easy to accuse parents today of lazy parenting as if we were all flippin’ Mary Poppins back in the day. And let’s not go down the rabbit hole of children in nappies - AGAIN.

It never ceases to amaze how some people jump in with both feet! Can I suggest you read my post more carefully.

Little people disappearing down rabbit holes and flying Nanny’s are not real - honestly 😂.

Neither is ‘creativity’ a dirty word.

I acknowledged that I see plenty of children with mums or dads in shops behaving well. The large majority in fact.

Not sure what part of that you didn’t understand.

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