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kircubbin2000 Sat 14-Sept-24 07:47:59

Perhaps I'm prudish but I've now got used to seeing women on TV showing low cleavage no matter the weather or occasion.
However I was surprised this morning to see an older plumpish MP being interviewed on Sky news with a revealing dress. Why? It's breakfast time on a chilly morning. I don't know anyone who does this. Even my daughter and dils wear a little camisole under their glamorous outfits.

valdavi Sat 14-Sept-24 18:11:56

I wouldn't normally comment on womens' or men's dress but I do find extreme low-cut cleavages in everyday situations (not talking about the red carpet or clubbing) really silly. I never listen to what they are saying as I'm holding my breathe hoping they don't pop out -& DH doesn't listen because he's hoping they do - also very impractical for any useful activity other than breast-feeding.

CariadAgain Sat 14-Sept-24 18:03:54

Added that I had to think along lines of v. necks, rather than high necks generally for my clothing - as I'm a little shorty, somewhat busty and with a short neck. Maybe people with a long elegant type neck can get away with higher necklines - but I can't if I wanted to.

CariadAgain Sat 14-Sept-24 17:54:53

Maybe one's attitude depends on what part of the country one is from???? I'm from a small southern English city (where I lived for many years), but then moved to a small town in West Wales and it seems to me there is a slight difference in "dress code" here to my own. We basically go for along the lines of "smart casual" and undo a reasonable number of buttons at the chest on shirt blouses etc - and so that's what I do. Fast forward to me there in a charity shop here and buying something and I went up to the counter to pay for it - and the (middle-aged) volunteer behind it thought she was doing me a favour I think by saying to me "Have you realised a button has come undone (ie on my shirt blouse)?".

I looked down expecting to see a button having come undone accidentally and there wasn't one - it was undone to my usual point. So I just gave her a puzzled look/said "That's fine thank you" and left it as it was - and that rather confirmed that necklines tend to be higher in this area than my own. I stick to what I know and I think maybe they've realised by now that there's nothing wrong with the way I dress slightly differently to the locals - and I'm dressing in our normal way (which is far from sexy - but it's not quite so "buttoned-up" literally).

So maybe they just come from a different part of the country to you - and it is the norm in their area?

downtoearth Sat 14-Sept-24 17:44:53

I am a 38c/d
I seem to have one boob either side of my rib cage and no sign of a cleavage, I would love to have a pair that meet enough in the middle to look interesting.

Laying flat on my back they hide in my arm pits.

Glad I still have them though, many would be grateful, I wouldnt like them on show though.

Gorgeous ladies at my SW group, several have impressive cleavages on show.

Babs03 Sat 14-Sept-24 17:06:57

Women with big boobs often struggle to get clothes that don’t accentuate their boobs. I have a grown daughter who is flat chested, and another who is bosomy like myself, they both bought similar outfits but in different colours, the flat chested daughter looked fine but the bosomy daughter was bursting out of hers. I have a similar problem, if I wear a v necked top I get too much cleavage. Is not that we want to put everything in the shop window it’s that clothes for women are not really geared towards curvy bosomy women but rather towards tall stick thin, flat chested, women.

hollysteers Sat 14-Sept-24 17:04:12

I remember Theresa May making a speech in the House of Commons with her cleavage on show. Aesthetically, it was displeasing, allied to her general middle aged appearance, and distracting.
I would feel the same about a male politician showing an uncovered belly or ‘builders’ bottom’.

Norah Sat 14-Sept-24 15:28:53

I have a ridiculous amount of boobage on a slim frame - I wear minimiser bras and keep covered outside my home, because that pleases me.

Others do what pleases them. "You do you" springs to mind.

vegansrock Sat 14-Sept-24 15:28:01

My OH comments “ she’s got all her goods in the shop window”

Macadia Sat 14-Sept-24 15:19:14

MissInterpreted

If you have big boobs, sometimes it actually looks a lot worse if you try to cover them up.

I disagree. You just need to know how to dress to flatter your shape, not undress. Every outfit has its venue, of course, but I don't like seeing exposed butt cracks either. To each their own !

M0nica Sat 14-Sept-24 15:04:46

GrannyGravy13

Blimey!

It’s the 21st Century and women are still telling and/or commenting on what other women choose to wear.

It is comments like these on this thread which made me make an appointment with a surgeon to have a breast reduction, fortunately Covid lockdowns meant the operation was postponed.

I had a long hard talk with myself and decided that my body was as good as anybody else’s

I cannot see any reason at all, regardless of century why I should not comment on what other people are wearing or say when I think it is in appropriate.

Man, woman or child I will still comment, whether to admire, be amused by, or say that I consider someone is inappropriately dressed or has absolutely got it right for the occasion.

Like everything else in life, one needs to know when it appropriate to comment and when not.

Dickens Sat 14-Sept-24 14:28:09

Poppyred

Yes agree. Showing off a wrinkled décolletage is a definite no no.

But that "no no" reinforces the disgust that some feel towards old people.

Ageing skin on both women and men wrinkles and sags - it's a fact of life, should we be ashamed, or shamed for it?

Personally, I think both the old and the young should dress according to the time-and-place.

On a beach you might see many older people in their swimming gear, they shouldn't feel they have to hide the fact that they have aged.

... they would of course look out of place dressed for the beach if they were being interviewed in the hallowed halls of Westminster. grin

Poppyred Sat 14-Sept-24 13:45:04

Yes agree. Showing off a wrinkled décolletage is a definite no no.

NotSpaghetti Sat 14-Sept-24 13:30:14

My thinking was is this someone on their way out or way back and has been interviewed with no notice and nobody else was available?

Is it possible she was looking fine standing up (if she was seated)?
Where was the camera situated?

nexus63 Sat 14-Sept-24 13:09:48

turn the tv off or look at another channel, what a stupid post, let people show what they like.

Grammaretto Sat 14-Sept-24 13:03:32

I agree with kircubbin. I prefer to see politicians wearing clothes which are not distracting. This would apply if it was a boilersuit in the HoC or a low cut cocktail dress, torn jeans or other fancy dress. Surely that should be reserved for informal occasions?

Marydoll Sat 14-Sept-24 13:02:58

One woman's low, may be another's high! wink

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Sept-24 12:57:55

Baggs

With respect, GG13, we know exactly what we're talking about: inappropriately low decolletage.

But not having seen the décolletage ourselves we only have the OP’s description of how low it was.

Baggs Sat 14-Sept-24 12:53:27

With respect, GG13, we know exactly what we're talking about: inappropriately low decolletage.

kircubbin2000 Sat 14-Sept-24 12:51:07

GrannyGravy13

Kircubbin2000 it would be helpful if you had a screenshot of the MP in question and named her so that we could see the offensive décolletage for ourselves.

As it stands we are discussing a topic withiut full knowledge.

I don't know who she as as I was distracted by her dress. I will watch in case the item is repeated.

RosiesMaw2 Sat 14-Sept-24 11:58:36

I think it’s quite sad when older women who clearly had a bust to be proud of when they were young nevertheless show off too much of a wrinkled weatherbeaten décolletage .
(Ducks behind sofa) it’s very ageing.
Only jealous really never had a figure to show off!

Indigo8 Sat 14-Sept-24 11:54:31

aggie I love the idea of you "rounding up" your 40G boobs.

Since mine began the long journey south I will have to think about "rounding them up etc."grin

GrannyGravy13 Sat 14-Sept-24 11:50:40

Kircubbin2000 it would be helpful if you had a screenshot of the MP in question and named her so that we could see the offensive décolletage for ourselves.

As it stands we are discussing a topic withiut full knowledge.

Dickens Sat 14-Sept-24 11:38:46

Is it body-shaming?

Surely there's a time and a place for showing off your boobs, pecs / 6-pack, shapely bottom, or any other part of the female - or male - anatomy?

There's nothing wrong with any of those attributes, but the focus should be on the event / occasion, or the issue at hand.

aggie Sat 14-Sept-24 11:36:34

I’ve just had a look in the mirror , my bosom is neatly tucked in and will not displease or scare the horses ! I have a good bra that rounds them up etc..
I am 40 g

Caleo Sat 14-Sept-24 11:31:53

GrannyGravy, do we not have right to expect MPs to display gravitas when they are on duty? The woman who works as an MP can wear what she likes when it's appropriate to appear sexy, however what she wears as an MP matters to my assessment whether or not she is a responsible enough person to be an MP.
Sexy is inappropriate for MP apparel.