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Maternity finances with DP - does this seem fair?

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Confusedfriend Sat 23-Nov-24 13:53:24

Currently, me and DP live apart. We have been together 2.5 years and planned to buy our own place next year. We only live apart as he lives an hr away and works from home whereas, I need to be in the office in the area I am from.

We have been trying for a baby for a year. I am now 15 weeks pregnant. I plan to put my house for sale end of Dec / early Jan and move in with him before Christmas.

Anyway, we have been chatting about maternity pay. He has created lots of spreadsheets which shows my salary decrease, etc. He has also created a spreadsheet for cashmodellijg and asked me to complete (ie what I need to pay during maternity leave.. things like my car insurance, phone bill etc.).

He said since my salary will be lower when I move in with him, he is only looking for the additional 25% incfease to his council tax (as he won't get single person discount anylonger) and a contribution towards gas/electricity (he isn't looking for half, just what i can afford, he currently pays around £300 per month for just him - he lives in a big old house).

He also said we would both still pay for food as we usually do.. for example we both have a joint account and put £200 each per month for food, joint activities, etc.

This got me thinking the other day.. I asked him why I am to save for maternity and not him. He said he will be paying all household bills which will be a stretch for him. He said moving in with him, I won't have any mortgage or rent to pay and that he is looking for just the council tax, what I can afford for electricity and my usual food contribution. I thought it was fair but here I am thinking about it. Is this fair? I mean, if I pay those things, he isn't paying anything additional as to what he currently pays living himself?

He said maternity leave is a joint cost and he will help where he can buy he is paying all bills so won't be able to fund coffees or lunches during my leave. I'm not asking him to do this but why am I to save up and not him?

Please let me know if you think I'm being shafted or if this sounds fair.

Thanks

Allsorts Sun 12-Jan-25 03:44:53

It's like a business arrangement and it's a pity couples don't get married before having a child. Getting wed shows commitment to each other and gives you rights you don't get as a single mom. Having a child is the biggest and most important life changer, you never stop being a mother. .. As it is keep your own home , rent it out if he doesnt want marriage, it wouldn't do for me, I would be worried why not and probably choose to go it alone and leave him with his spread sheets.

mae13 Sun 12-Jan-25 03:13:22

Norah

Perhaps marry, stability for your new family?

Keep your home, make sure (solicitor) it's protected at yours.

Fully agree.

He seems to have invested a tremendous amount of thought and effort into workìng things out very methodically, spreadsheets galore, et al. From the info given it seems the future has been meticulously structured to his advantage, leaving the OP with a feeling of uneasiness and not a few question marks.

A marriage certificate would go some way to legally clarifying the situation and affording OP some neccessary legal security. That's the priority word here: SECURITY.

NotSpaghetti Sat 11-Jan-25 23:39:47

I would seriously look at the possibility of renting out your property- I think you said you thought you needed more equity?
Maybe you don't?

I would also ask do I truly love and trust this person?

If you do, and he is trustworthy, why would he be out to rip you off?
Planning the baby before the living arrangements is sort of odd to me. Babies are a terrific emotional, practical and financial upheaval.
I don't understand what it is about your relationship that made this your choice.

I also think that we all behave differently.
Some people need to feel they have financial independence within their marriage but neither of us cared.
I was lucky in that we both started with not a lot - but when I inherited it never occurred to me not to put it onto a joint pot.
Having worked in refuge with women fleeing abuse however I can see positives to keeping some money apart!
No one can really make the decision for you unfortunately.

I wish you well for the future but think you should try living together before you make any irreversible changes. Part time living together is very different to full time.

Skydancer Sat 11-Jan-25 21:29:40

Cold

You might get better replies on Mumsnet rather than Gransnet for grandparents.

I agree. This site is for grandparents.

mabon1 Sat 11-Jan-25 20:53:22

At all costs hang on to your own home as you are not married. Anyway even if you are married don't sell it, rent it out, it's your security.

Allira Mon 25-Nov-24 20:03:10

Smileless2012

As I've reported both threads, I'll be guided by GNHQ.

Yes, so have I.

Smileless2012 Mon 25-Nov-24 20:02:06

As I've reported both threads, I'll be guided by GNHQ.

Confusedfriend Mon 25-Nov-24 19:49:35

I call my boyfriend my partner at times and vice versa. What's the issue? I haven't lied and called him my husband or anything like that.

Whats it to do with you what I call him?? It's the same bloody thing

Smileless2012 Mon 25-Nov-24 17:34:14

Seeing the thread you've just started about your partnersboyfriend's search history and your concerns about Tess, are you sure you want to go ahead with his relationship Confusedfriend?

Smileless2012 Mon 25-Nov-24 17:19:59

I'm glad that posting here has helped Confusedfriend smile.

Confusedfriend Mon 25-Nov-24 15:56:14

petra

I think the OP is one of those 😉

..... tick tock 🤷🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️

Confusedfriend Mon 25-Nov-24 15:54:53

Still waiting... one of what??

Or do you Just vanish after typing snide??

Trolls, who would have thought they'd be on gransnet. I'm embarrassed for you.

Confusedfriend Mon 25-Nov-24 15:51:33

I do feel a lot better. I tend to think of worse case scenarios, a lot. I then tend to search old mumsnet posts where the poster has went through similar... and really wind myself up. My partner hates mumsnet and says he noticies a difference in me when I sit and read it. I will look into keeping my house but if that isn't possible or won't be beneficial then I simply will sell as it'll only cost money and I don't wsnt to live seperately from my partner, especially after giving birth.

I think alot of the nightmare posts I have read is people who have rented and then moved in with their partners and don't have savings. They then sometimes give up work to look after said child. Me on the other hand, any money from sale of my house is mine to keep, I have friends and family, I also have savings that are not joint but are solely and only mine, and I can survive on my income alone, I don't need his money. Ahhh hormones have me getting all emotional and thinking the worse. Thanks everyone. We are having a chat tonight about maternity finances... instigated by me. Thank you all.

Confusedfriend Mon 25-Nov-24 15:46:58

It isn't a very nice question and is a bit rude, yes. But two posters are posting implying I'm "one of those" and will provide no explanation and have disappeared when challenged. Very rude and immature.

Pearl30 Sun 24-Nov-24 20:56:04

He does sound a decent chap and you both appear sensible. I think spreadsheets are a good idea and help plan for the future. Better to foresee what’s possible than to go blindly forth.

You are possibly more concerned about the next year, before you both buy a house together. Thats understandable. It’s a big change and there’s risk. But that’s the same for all making the next big step, into marriage or just moving in together.

It sounds like the discussion has helped you be clearer in your mind. I hoped it’s helped you. Enjoy your pregnancy and the relationship. They say never argue over money! Wishing you all the best.

Delila Sun 24-Nov-24 19:09:38

Surely, going into any relationship with another person is to some extent a gamble on the future, but in your case, OP, your OH has done a lot of homework in advance and is giving you more reassurance than many other prospective partners would be able to give.

You love him, you’ve already had considerable experience of living together and assessing how compatible you are. You may find yourself throwing the spreadsheets into the air in exasperation now and then, but there are a lot of positives already. The biggest unknown is how things will work once the baby arrives, but isn’t that always the case?

As others have said, your house is a valuable asset, so it’s probably a good idea to keep it, as you’re planning to do.

Norah Sun 24-Nov-24 17:09:09

Confusedfriend

Yes, we have a... you guess it! Spreadsheet of pooled income when we purchase a home together. The plan is to sell this house next Christmas... we said if that were to change, ie we would be here mich longer (my partner doesn't envisage this, i like to think of all senarios) then yes, I would be on the mortgage and everything would be split equally compared to salary. Our current estimates split is 33/67 based on salary. Him paying the highest share.

Seems fair.

For me marriage first is always the answer, but you have spreadsheets - whatever makes you happy splitting your home and assets and his tangible assets.

Allira Sun 24-Nov-24 16:59:40

Security is the key word when you are expecting a child.

Grunty Sun 24-Nov-24 16:58:49

So pleased that you came to a solution and a plan for the future that gives you peace of mind ConfusedFriend. Armed with your finances attuned with your spreadsheets, and a plan for your own house being rented out, it sounds like your problem is resolved and you can look forward to a future as a family together.

Confusedfriend Sun 24-Nov-24 16:36:46

Thanks for advice so far everyone. I'll look into renting my house out as an additional income not for the purpose of what if we split because if I had thay mindset I shouldn't be pregnant! But life happens. I'll look at it as an option and see if it's worth it. Thank you.

Allira Sun 24-Nov-24 16:35:35

How old are you?

As old as my tongue and a bit older than my teeth is the usual answer when someone asks that impertinent question.

Confusedfriend Sun 24-Nov-24 16:34:22

Yes, we have a... you guess it! Spreadsheet of pooled income when we purchase a home together. The plan is to sell this house next Christmas... we said if that were to change, ie we would be here mich longer (my partner doesn't envisage this, i like to think of all senarios) then yes, I would be on the mortgage and everything would be split equally compared to salary. Our current estimates split is 33/67 based on salary. Him paying the highest share.

Confusedfriend Sun 24-Nov-24 16:31:56

Skydancer, more passive aggressive. I'm here so please speak freely what you are implying here? Please tell me what youre calling me? Funny when I called out your friend she went quiet too! I've never really understood people that take time to read a post, decide they have nothing to add which will help but decide to post comments which are hurtful or snide. How old are you?

Allira Sun 24-Nov-24 16:30:46

Madgran77

I might have missed it but has there ever been any consideration of actually pooling all income and then working out from that what are outgoings; savings; day to day expenses; extras etc? That system works for some couples...would it help you?

The best mantra is "What's yours is mine and what's mine's my own" wink

Skydancer Sun 24-Nov-24 16:17:00

petra

I think the OP is one of those 😉

So do I. Petra.