Are the broadcasting corporations encouraging smut and innuendo?

Whatever happened to Samantha Janus?
I remember reading that people liked to inform her they knew her dad, Hugh.

petra

Allira
Huge Jampton. It’s from cockney riming slang. Hampton Wick which was shortened to Dick

Well it is obviously a Landon fing init! Cockerney Rhyming Slang.

I know. It passed me by too….

TBH I wouldn’t have found ‘a little squirt’ at all smutty! Isn’t a certain sort of cream known as ‘squirty’ cream?
To me that one is smutty only in the mind of the hearer.
‘Smut’ can be read into all sorts if anyone is looking for it.

Or should I have said ‘if anyone’s dirty mind is looking for it’?

RieW

How are nicotine pouches legal? They're far more potent than ciggies and should never in a million years be available over the counter. You can't drive when they kick in for the first few mins on strength 4 or 5.

And the relevance of your post is…?

How are nicotine pouches legal? They're far more potent than ciggies and should never in a million years be available over the counter. You can't drive when they kick in for the first few mins on strength 4 or 5.

Babs03

Innuendo is not sexual misconduct, it is present in Shakespeare and has been a tongue in cheek tool when chasing the funnies, but it needs a good comedian to execute this well and not simply appear to be rude and off putting.
I don’t think Greg Wallace is a comedian, good or otherwise, I think he is a misogynistic bully who made women appearing on the show feel uncomfortable and insulted.
There is a world of difference.

Innuendo can easily be used as bullying and in a working or social environment, you don’t actually see as much on live TV although obscene language is commonplace now.

Innuendo is not sexual misconduct, it is present in Shakespeare and has been a tongue in cheek tool when chasing the funnies, but it needs a good comedian to execute this well and not simply appear to be rude and off putting.
I don’t think Greg Wallace is a comedian, good or otherwise, I think he is a misogynistic bully who made women appearing on the show feel uncomfortable and insulted.
There is a world of difference.

It is no worse than it has ever been. Innuendo has always been part of humour.

To be fair some of the most deeply aggressive sexist men would see themselves as 'woke' - this behaviour doesnt limit itself to a particular political or cultural viewpoint.

I'd hate to have a female family member who told me to grow up, not ruin a man's career, stop being woke.

Ilovecheese

Elegran describes the situation very well.

Yes.

Elegran describes the situation very well.

yellowfox says: "Grow up ladies and deal with it.
Don't ruin a man's career."

As I have posted previously, grown up women are dealing with it, They are stating that they don't like it and it should stop. One boorish man's feelings are not more important than any woman's of any age or class,

Mary Berry? Sexual innuendo? Really?

yellowfox

Why do these women have to jump on the bandwagon. years after they have been offended by someone's sense of humour. Surely they can let sleeping dogs lie.
I don't think Greg Wallace set out to offend certain women by his off camera jokes.
Oh my goodness, at 78 I have dealt with so much worse in my time.
Grow up ladies and deal with it.
Don't ruin a man's career.

I don't think he "set out to offend certain people by his off camera jokes"

First of all, it apparently wasn't off camera, it was while they were being filmed, so by causing a distraction during the recording of an episode, he was being a damned nuisance to the whole cast and the technical people too. His stupid words had to be cut out, or the whole scene shot again.

Secondly, his "jokes" would put the women off what they were there to do - to play their role as part of the cast. They were not relaxing off-camera between takes, or after it was all "in the can", they were working. So was he - or supposed to be.

Thirdly, I don't believe it was done in a friendly, joky way. It was a deliberate attempt to disturb them so that they would give a worse performance than they would otherwise give, and look look incompetent, so that he would look a lot better than them. It was competitive oneupmanship, or upstaging. Far from our comments ruining his career, he was trying to spoil their performance and careers - and has succeeded in ruining his own. Time wounds all heels.

People are too sensitive today and have no sense of humour saying that if it were a young fit person saying these things or even a woman would it be taken the same way

I don't see it as smutty or innuendos at all, just a bit of fun.

I don't have a tv and if I did I'd never watch cooking shows, which would quite honestly, bore me into a coma but my favourite saying regarding cream is ''it's for giving your puddin' a little squirt, or your little squirt, a puddin!''

Why do these women have to jump on the bandwagon. years after they have been offended by someone's sense of humour. Surely they can let sleeping dogs lie.
I don't think Greg Wallace set out to offend certain women by his off camera jokes.
Oh my goodness, at 78 I have dealt with so much worse in my time.
Grow up ladies and deal with it.
Don't ruin a man's career.

polnan

I agree with Ex Dancer

For pity's sake ladies - grow up and deal with it!

I acknowledge that it can be difficult for many people, but is this the so called wokery taking control, or hopefully, trying to take control..

How on earth are those complaining on here about innuendo "woke"? Surely the opposite?

or do you mean whose complaining about Greg Wallace "woke"?

I agree with Ex Dancer

For pity's sake ladies - grow up and deal with it!

I acknowledge that it can be difficult for many people, but is this the so called wokery taking control, or hopefully, trying to take control..

Dinahmo

Nonnato2 The BBC does not have a left wing bias. Each political party accuses them of favouring their opponents. If you cast your mind back to the Brexit period they had difficulty getting decent Brexit supporters on to the political programmes because most didn't want to appear. Thus we were left with the likes of Mark Francois who had very little to say of any importance.

You have your opinion and I have mine.

There’s def more smut on tv than in days of yore, less innuendo tho as now they come right out and say it.Celebs like the awful Jo Brand and Miriam Margoleys have no filter and neither do many male celebs either.So to answer the OP yes I think they do encourage it.

Nonnato2 The BBC does not have a left wing bias. Each political party accuses them of favouring their opponents. If you cast your mind back to the Brexit period they had difficulty getting decent Brexit supporters on to the political programmes because most didn't want to appear. Thus we were left with the likes of Mark Francois who had very little to say of any importance.

This whole situation with Greg Wallace is getting totally out of hand. Today it has become the leading story on the news! Ukraine and Gaza have become second place. And as mentioned on here the comedy programmes I was brought up on as family viewing included smutty Benny Hill, Charlie Drake whose eye level was constantly at female chest level etc etc - even Morecambe and Wise shared a bed. Admittedly Wallace went over the top with middle aged women rant but come on - I’m not condoning it but it’s getting completely out of hand. I certainly can’t imagine Penny Lancaster being intimidated. Going to be interesting.

Most programmes, as has been said above, are made by external production companies. Masterchef was made by a company called Banijay UK.

Wolf Hall was a co-production with 2 external companies plus the BBC.

Can you imagine the outcry if the Beeb employed 100s of staff just to watch tv programmes for offensive material - the cost would be enormous.