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To expect good manners in Theatre Audiences

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Babs03 Sat 14-Dec-24 21:38:34

This is from a piece about disruption during a production of Macbeth -

‘Earlier this week, an audience member who refused to wait for a break to return to his seat disrupted a performance at the Harold Pinter Theatre on Panton Street.
The Doctor Who star, 53, was told to leave the stage for 15 minutes as the objector insisted on getting back to his row and “then lots of people kicked off”, witnesses said.’

The simple fact is we can’t afford to go to the theatre very often but love to see a performance in the West End. However, we have seen a deterioration of good theatre manners, with audience members arriving late and shuffling to their seats obscuring people’s view of the stage during the production, drunk members shouting out and clapping for no good reason, and of course people going on their phones. I saw a man in front of me playing some kind of game on his phone rather than watching the production.
I think this deterioration is to some extent due to theatre goes being allowed to take drinks from the bar into the theatre and even have drinks served to them in their seats. Certainly if someone can’t wait a couple of hours to go without a drink is something wrong. And such drinks are hardly a treat, served in nasty plastic cups.
Surely better to have proper drinks either before or after a production.
Rant over 🤔

NotSpaghetti Sun 15-Dec-24 16:41:47

Thank you.
It just looked a bit mad when you don't understand.
Honestly - how ridiculous!

Grunty Sun 15-Dec-24 16:29:21

NotSpaghetti apparently the incident occurred during a performance of the Bodyguard. Before the curtain was raised, the cast made a formal request that members of the audience refrain from singing throughout the show. The woman and her daughter ignored that request and were singing along, at full volume and very much off key, with every song. Audience members felt that, having paid significant sums of money to hear a professional singer perform, they'd prefer the 2 women to stfu. The women objected, sang louder, a fight broke out and the police arrived to evict them from the auditorium.

NotSpaghetti Sun 15-Dec-24 13:47:45

What was going on there Grunty please?
I have watched the video but I have no context so have no idea what was the incident that led to this to be honest.

Can you explain please?

Keeper1 Sun 15-Dec-24 13:17:25

The behaviour of some of the audiences described here could well have been transported from Shakespeare’s time

Caleo Sun 15-Dec-24 13:07:02

Attending a live performance is more than the same thing on TV in privacy of your home.

Attending a live performance involves silently associating with the rest of the audience who want to pay attention to the music, dance, theatre or whatever. The event is like attending a church service in that you respect the spirit of the event.

However if the event turns out to be downright evil there are not many who would object if you did not want to participate.

Making yourself into a pig in public is uncharming for sure, but is a trivial matter compared with free speech and the right for people to be heard.

Babs03 Sun 15-Dec-24 12:56:43

Good Lord!
That is awful Grunty.
Have seen some squabbles at the theatre but never a full on brawl. On one occasion a young woman dropped her drink on the steps leading to her seat and refused to pick it up despite people behind her pointing out it was a hazard and someone could easily slip. I went to tell a steward fearing an accident who then had to clean it all up. Meanwhile the young woman had the nerve to get up and once again visit the bar to get another drink without a backward glance.
There really are no words.
🙄

Grunty Sun 15-Dec-24 12:44:24

The behaviour of these audience members is simply jaw dropping

youtu.be/-9YMX37_Sg4?si=dCLq5zlSNwKblJGe

Babs03 Sun 15-Dec-24 12:17:51

Correction enormous containers of popcorn

Babs03 Sun 15-Dec-24 12:17:19

The cinema is a disgrace, people buy meals and enormous containers of food then simply throw it all on the floor. Would hate to be a cleaner in a cinema. Is like cleaning after animals in a farmyard.
When did people start thinking is ok to throw everything on the floor.

petal53 Sun 15-Dec-24 11:03:07

I do think the behaviour of some theatre goers has deteriorated in recent years, but by no means has everyone’s behaviour deteriorated. We find on the whole, that theatre goers behaviour is okay. The main thing that really does annoy me is when people arrive late and are allowed to access their seats, despite causing a big disturbance to others in their row, and people sitting behind.
Don’t get me started on the behaviour in cinemas though. That utterly disgusting food people are allowed to buy and take in the cinema which absolutely stinks. It’s vile. And the constant rattling of sweet wrappers sometimes.

Babs03 Sun 15-Dec-24 10:38:08

David49

If you want theatre for “Everyman” you have to expect everymans behavior is not always as you would like. Not too many years ago you dressed up to go to the theatre, now you dress down sloppy jumper and jeans is normal.

I’m not surprised some are so bored they play computer games some productions are awful,

We have walked out at the interval when given tickets to an avant garde production that was dire, but we wouldn’t dream of staying and talking etc.,or using our phones.
We pay more than we can afford sometimes to see a good production in the West End, so having it spoiled is not just wasting our enjoyment but our money as well.
People just seem to have lost all sense of respect and decency these days, I think it got much worse after lockdown tbh.

Maggierose Sun 15-Dec-24 09:44:36

I went to a production of Macbeth in a local church. My heart sank when 5 kids who looked to be aged 8 - 10 sat in front of me with a man. I thought they might be a bit young for it and expected some disturbance. They actually behaved very well but after the play started a woman arrived, who sat in our row behind one of the boys. When she wasn’t talking to the boy she was on her phone or passing snacks and drinks to the boy. Just had no idea how to behave!

Oreo Sun 15-Dec-24 09:28:14

Maybe the OP question should be AIBU to expect good manners anywhere?
As to theatre performances, good manners from audiences went long ago, possibly the same for opera and ballet.We went to see a performance of Swan Lake a couple of years ago and before curtain up, a member of the company came onstage to lay down a few rules about applauding.He said to please not start clapping until a section of the ballet ends ( change of scenery) as it puts the dancers off.Fair enough, not everyone knows when they should or shouldn’t do it, but even so some members of the audience did applaud and even cheered where quiet was the order of the day.
It’s as if they were in the cinema, where audiences now often do clap cheer and whistle at bits they like🤬

NotSpaghetti Sun 15-Dec-24 08:48:52

David49 - surely if a show is dreadful you can walk out?

No need to play games etc.

NanKate Sun 15-Dec-24 08:35:02

A few years ago we went to the Henley on Thames Parish Church where a very popular Elvis impersonator, Ben Portsmouth, was giving a charity Christmas concert. It was packed out. Three rowdy girls sat in front of us. They were drinking alcohol and were getting noisier and noisier.

Now I need to say here I am all for fun and having a drink, but they seemed to have no idea that they were in a church and should in my opinion have shown a little decorum. They totally spoilt the evening for us.

Esmay Sun 15-Dec-24 08:11:55

Things have changed and not for the better .I haven't been to the theater for a while, but recall a couple of men staging a really frightening fight during the interval .
They thought that it was funny .
I went to the cinema a couple of weeks ago and had to pick popcorn out of my hair afterwards .

Calendargirl Sun 15-Dec-24 07:48:21

David49

If you want theatre for “Everyman” you have to expect everymans behavior is not always as you would like. Not too many years ago you dressed up to go to the theatre, now you dress down sloppy jumper and jeans is normal.

I’m not surprised some are so bored they play computer games some productions are awful,

Who says we want theatre for ‘Everyman’? Not if they spoil others enjoyment.

Ok to wear jeans and jumpers as long as they are clean, no need for tiaras and pearls, but that is nothing to do with thoughtless behaviour.

David49 Sun 15-Dec-24 07:43:03

If you want theatre for “Everyman” you have to expect everymans behavior is not always as you would like. Not too many years ago you dressed up to go to the theatre, now you dress down sloppy jumper and jeans is normal.

I’m not surprised some are so bored they play computer games some productions are awful,

Astitchintime Sun 15-Dec-24 07:33:11

My friend invited me to her social group Christmas meeting just recently. They had invited the local school choir along to sing Christmas carols.
At the start of the event the organiser told all the audience that taking photographs or filming the children was NOT permitted even if it was their grandchildren entertaining us! And everyone complied.
Seemingly, you need parental consent to take photographs of any child at such events, and rightly so.
I am pleased you called the woman out and you were NOT being a fusspot Babs.

Calendargirl Sun 15-Dec-24 07:18:05

My daughter thought I was a fusspot

Probably embarrassed about Mum making a big deal out of someone using an unpermitted phone.

Good for you!

If more people complained, then these entitled parents might think a bit more about breaking the rules.

Does darling little Johnny’s or Susie’s every movement have to be filmed for posterity?

BlueBelle Sun 15-Dec-24 06:30:10

Are these London theatres ? Because I ve never had that happen locally even our nearest city
I went to a big theatre in Cork recently while on holiday for a panto this year it was very laid back very full there was lots of little kids there so there was loads of toilet trips and disruptions but great happiness

nanna8 Sun 15-Dec-24 03:53:22

They are very strict here and will not allow latecomers in . I’m glad. The earliest they can get in is during the half time break, if there is one. If not, bad luck!

Redhead56 Sun 15-Dec-24 00:21:15

Anywhere you are paying good money to see a performance you expect the audience to behave. Unfortunately this is not the case anymore. Quite a few years ago we went to see Marc Almond at the Everyman Liverpool. He had started to sing and people constantly piled in laughing making a racket. Disturbing the audience well after the curtain went up. He stopped singing and addressed the audience by saying that he considered it rude to be so noisy and disruptive when the performance had started. It was inconsiderate to the performers and the rest of the audience who arrived on time without making a noise.
He also suggested there are enough bars in Liverpool where very late comers could have gone to to carry on partying.
He was given a round of approval from the audience and definitely gained respect from many that night.

Sarnia Sun 15-Dec-24 00:10:14

I was watching a production of local Primary school choirs in a theatre about a year ago. We were asked by the conductor not to take photographs or videos during the performance. There is always one, isn't there and she was sat in the row in front of me, one seat to the left. The light from her phone was very distracting and spoiling my enjoyment of the singing so I tapped her on the shoulder and asked her to please switch her phone off. She completely ignored me and carried on. When the lights went up during the interval she got up and glared at me as she went past. Before she returned I mentioned it to a steward who stayed nearby and when she started filming at the start of the second half was told to switch off her phone or leave the theatre. My daughter thought I was a fusspot but the rules are in place for a very good reason, mainly to safeguard the children.

Deedaa Sat 14-Dec-24 23:30:08

When I was a teenager in the 60s I used to go to the theatre a lot. The rule was always that if you arrived late you had to wait for a suitable pause in the performance before they would let you in.