Iraq legalises marriage so that 9 year olds can marry

It's Wyllow and not quite sure what you are asking. Abuse of children and women in the UK in homes across all cultures is only stopped when victims come forward and there are people and a system who support them

I thought this thread was about nine year olds being allowed to marry. In Iraq! Nothing to do with America.

Willow: masses of things are illegal in the UK, including FGM, under age sex, murder and a myriad of other crimes. What is acceptable in one culture is not acceptable in another but noone knows what goes on behind closed doors. How should it be stopped?

yes on a thread about men raping nine year olds it is the republicans that are the issue.

NotSpaghetti

Dickens as my post and the article I posted upthread says, yes, it's a Democrat who put it forward - the confusion is that it would be a Republican who would have to bring it into law.

Can't see it myself!

Can't see it myself!

Well, the mind does boggle somewhat!

OK, anyway, sorry - I should've realised that the bill would, naturally have to be brought in by a Republican, which again, puts another slant on the whole fiasco, also, I should've RTFT!

I believe this, what I might call, 'Republican alpha-male misogyny-lite' is a slow-creep thing. I think Mr Musk is on board with it, too - he highlighted a post recently on 'X' where the poster appears to subscribe to government by alpha-males.

The theory suggests that the only people able to think freely are ‘high [testostrone] sic alpha males’ and ‘aneurotypical sic people’. These "high status males" could apparently be the decision-makers, and it would appear, that "low T men" and women would not be welcome in this new Republic (aneurotypical is not actually a word - but we get the drift).

Musk didn't actually make this comment (the poster was anonymous (as many are on 4chan) be he promoted it by reposting it to his followers and commented that he found it "interesting".

... just another day in the new-town development of Giliadshire...

The bill, introduced Monday, would impose fines of $1,000 for a first offense, $5,000 for a second offense and $10,000 for any subsequent offenses.

The bill is unlikely to pass the GOP-led Legislature, but if it does and is signed into law by Gov. Tate Reeves, a Republican, it would go into effect in July.

Dickens as my post and the article I posted upthread says, yes, it's a Democrat who put it forward - the confusion is that it would be a Republican who would have to bring it into law.

Can't see it myself!

Whitewavemark2

NotSpaghetti

Whitewavemark2

I read that some bloody fool of a Republican is arguing that life begins at erection.

Suggesting I assume that women cannot refuse to have sex.

No. I think this is basically an anti-masturbation law directed at men.

😄😄.

My mind has been wondering since I posted that remark. I also wonder about wet dreams etc etc etc.

The men are all doomed😊

What idiots some republicans are.

If I'm not mistaken, the senator is a Democrat (according to NEWSWEEK).

Senator Bradford Blackmon told NEWSWEEK that

...the bill is meant to point out the double standards in legislation.

"When a bill has been filed that would regulate what a man is able to do with his own body in his own home, it suddenly has people in an uproar," Blackmon told Newsweek. "I am trying to figure out when it is okay for the government to dictate what you do in the privacy of your own home."

"Apparently, it is when the laws regulate men."

"The reactions from some quarters relating to my bill indicate that men are not held to the same standard when it comes to the intrusion into their personal private affairs as women have been held to with the reversal of Roe v. Wade," Blackmon told Newsweek."

If NEWSWEEK is right - it paints a completely different picture, doesn't it?

NotSpaghetti

Whitewavemark2

I read that some bloody fool of a Republican is arguing that life begins at erection.

Suggesting I assume that women cannot refuse to have sex.

No. I think this is basically an anti-masturbation law directed at men.

😄😄.

My mind has been wondering since I posted that remark. I also wonder about wet dreams etc etc etc.

The men are all doomed😊

What idiots some republicans are.

I'm not supporting or apologising for Ghebreyesus' connection to the earlier regime but on his own social media he is against FGM.

He speaks of no benefits and lots of negatives. He was against Gambia making it legal and posted about that last year.

The WHO stance is that FGM is abuse.

Absolutely terribull.

Maybe when we have a president of the WHO who really wants this to end we might have a chance of wiping out this horror.
All the while we have the head of the WHO who was the head of public health in Ethiopia for 7 years there’s not a hope in hell of ending it.
To date 25 million in Ethiopia have been cut

Here it is:

www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna188938

It would make it illegal to ejaculate without intending conception.

It's a tongue-in-cheek law (I believe) to point up the control over women's bodies around reproductive rights.

In a statement to NBC affiliate WLBT of Jackson, Blackmon referred to the high number of state legislative bills introduced in recent years that target women's access to reproductive health care, specifically abortion and contraception.

"All across the country, especially here in Mississippi, the vast majority of bills relating to contraception and/or abortion focus on the woman’s role when men are fifty percent of the equation," he wrote. "This bill highlights that fact and brings the man’s role into the conversation. People can get up in arms and call it absurd but I can’t say that bothers me."

And I think a Democrat suggested it.
Will try to find it!

Whitewavemark2

I read that some bloody fool of a Republican is arguing that life begins at erection.

Suggesting I assume that women cannot refuse to have sex.

No. I think this is basically an anti-masturbation law directed at men.

I don't think we should shy away from criticising cultural and religious practices that are abhorrent crimes from wherever they emanate. Having been raised a catholic, I'm damn glad that much of the wrong doings in the religion that dominated my early years, are now out in the open, in some cases, although not enough, perpetrators have been punished, often without the co-operation of the hierarchy that has certainly been a problem. All religions should be subject to scrutiny, they should not be allowed to be a law unto themselves as if they have some divine right to flout the law of the land or dismiss what society deems acceptable. .

Of course, as with Christianity, there are many strands to Islam, both hard line and far more relaxed, I have no doubt that many within that religion would not subscribe to little girls being married off to adult men, but criticism has to come from within as well as from the wider community.

nanna8

I don’t know how you deal with this because as soon as it is mentioned cries of ‘racism’ are heard. A few prosecutions of those going against the laws of the particular country might help but with someone like Starmer in charge it won’t happen.

Where’s the evidence in support of this? The evidence from his working life is commitment to the safety of women and girls

Whitewave 🤮🤢

I read that some bloody fool of a Republican is arguing that life begins at erection.

Suggesting I assume that women cannot refuse to have sex.

It is absolutely the same as choicey choice feminism. Oh yes it is so empowering for women to be on only fans or take part in prostitution. I am afraid if you think it is ok for women to make those choices then it has to be ok for women to choose to be traditional wives and post about on the internet.

Dickens

Wyllow3

Loads of stuff on google if you just enter Trad Wives USA. Different from deciding to stay at home, its a political movement.

Oh, the 'Trad Wives', yes I've read about that movement.

I believe some of them are "influencers" (and that's a word I'd be happy never to have to read again), selling their lifestyle online. Apparently, some aren't even married, but that's by-the-by.

It all feeds into the narrative and is a great boost for the alpha-male ethos raging in America at the moment. Get the wimin back in the kitchen, ban abortion, get rid of immigrants and have lots of home grown babies to fill all the jobs required - back to the golden age (whenever that was) and MAGA.

Sounds more like Stepford wives to me…

Wyllow3

FGM is illegal and it is most strongly prosecuted in the UK and taken most seriously.

www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/female-genital-mutilation

And examples of prosecution if you google.

It has been spoken against by the MCB for over 10 years.

mcb.org.uk/muslim-council-of-britain-speaks-out-against-female-genital-mutilation/

I remember looking at it whilst doing my degree donkeys years ago.

It has always been known about.

Suppression of women is at the base of it.

Honestly what we’ve put up with throughout the millennia

Religion nearly always provides the ideology behind it, and Christianity is not innocent in this regard, both historically and modern day - look at the USA.

FGM is illegal and it is most strongly prosecuted in the UK and taken most seriously.

www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/female-genital-mutilation

And examples of prosecution if you google.

It has been spoken against by the MCB for over 10 years.

mcb.org.uk/muslim-council-of-britain-speaks-out-against-female-genital-mutilation/

I don’t know how you deal with this because as soon as it is mentioned cries of ‘racism’ are heard. A few prosecutions of those going against the laws of the particular country might help but with someone like Starmer in charge it won’t happen.

I was about to say the same thing Skydancer. Everyone is afraid to say it but we have enclaves of different cultures in this country. Most of us do not know what goes on in them. The Pakistani grooming gangs are all over the headlines; FGM occurs in England, as reported a while ago. Kemi Badenoch alluded to it several days ago.