Dogs everywhere

I just love how well behaved dogs are constantly compared to ill behaved (or the disgusting description 'feral') children. Surely the comparators should be badly behaved dogs with badly behaved children, or well behaved dogs and well behaved children? In my opinion anyone who describes a child as 'feral' says more about themself than any child. Especially when they excuse badly behaved dogs as being innocent it's the owners to blame, then surely it follows the poor children are innocent it's their parents/guardians to blame? It's even possible that an establishment might be hosting badly behaved dogs alongside well behaved children!
On the subject of those extending leads, driving home recently as I came near to a corner in my car a small dog on one ran into the road in front of me. I was going slowly so easily braked and avoided any contact. The owner, wife and son looked quite surprised to see their dog in the road in front of my car. Their other dog was obviously content to walk beside them. Letting your dog out of sight on an extending lead is not just thoughtless but potentially dangerous.

Once again, dog lovers implying that people attacked by dogs are lying.

My 2 dogs spotted a lady and toddler on the beach. They love children and ran towards them. I shouted one command and they immediately stopped dead and returned to me. That's how you train a dog or 2 in my case. I can stop them going into streams, rivers, play areas etc with one command. They were taught with dog biscuits and cooked chicken breast not cruelty.

I agree with Chardy. I worked really hard training my puppy to be good off lead. She watches me all the time and responds to signals. I’ve had so many people stop me and tell me what a lovely, well behaved dog she is. Sorry to sound my own trumpet but it does make me feel proud of her. I can’t take all the credit - I watched every Cesar Milan video and read his puppy training book. That man knows dogs. 😊

Personally I wish there were fog friendly cafes that didnt allow small children. I'd definitely choose to spend my hard earned in the company of dogs and dog owners. I miss my dogs so a bit of time with other 4 legged is lovely. As for small, screaming children being allowed to run around, climb on furniture and mess about drives me mad. My children never behaved lije that when out and neither let their children behave like that. Their dogs are wrll behaved too. There are plenty places dogs aren't allowed but I lije those that do.

Kate1949

Once again, dog lovers implying that people attacked by dogs are lying.

Are they?
Who? Where?

'Wow just wow. Where do some of you people live?'

One question does not necessarily answer another Kate1949, but to answer yours, in a village of approximately 1200 to 1500 inhabitants - and quite a few dogs.

Now are you prepared to return the courtesy?

I love it!

I live in a popular seaside town with narrow streets. Yesterday I walked from my house down the pedestrian precinct to the sea (approx 200yds) and counted 26 dogs on the way! There were two people with 5 dogs each. My husband who has dementia and mobility problems will no longer walk down that street because he has twice been knocked by dogs. He won’t go out until the crowds go. We check the webcams to see if it is safe. I hate those zippy leads that stretch out for a good few yards. One women called her dog and it ran around behind me and then towards her owner caused a deep cut across the back of my leg that left a 4” scar. Having said that I love dogs it’s just the inconsiderate owners who don’t have their dogs under control. In many holiday let’s you cannot leave the dogs alone in the accommodation and obviously on hot days can’t leave them in the car.

sazz1

My 2 dogs spotted a lady and toddler on the beach. They love children and ran towards them. I shouted one command and they immediately stopped dead and returned to me. That's how you train a dog or 2 in my case. I can stop them going into streams, rivers, play areas etc with one command. They were taught with dog biscuits and cooked chicken breast not cruelty.

How I wish that all dog owners were like you! My disabled, autistic, learning difficulties grandson is terrified of dogs. We purposely go to beaches that ban dogs during the summer months for our seaside holidays. I wish that meant we have not been affected by dogs with no recall bouncing up to us on our beach blankets while owners scream their name from many hundreds of yards away. Once a man who had one spaniel that was perfectly obedient did apologise and explain that his other one was still "in training" and had crossed from the 'dogs permitted' area to the dogs banned area. To be fair he was really upset to see our distressed grandchild and promised he wouldn't let it off lead on the beach until it learned better recall. Others have taken the attitude our grandson needs to 'toughen up' 🙄🙄

Some of you people . Really?

Unfortunately, thé well-behaved dog walking to heel on leash ( not dangerous extendable ones ) are now very rare. People don’t seem to be satisfied with just one dog but are being wrestled along by two, three and four - or even more. Pampered and indulged, owners seem to expect we will get off the footpath to make way for them and look smilingly as if we are to share their indulgence. I too like dogs but it’s all insane - I understand thé urine as well as dogs poo is causing a big ecological problem.

I like all animals but agree that they shouldn't be allowed in restaurants. I don't want to eat while they are around. My friend has one and if I call over we can't have a chat as it constantly barks and she has to pick it up - it's quite a lump now so it must make her arms ache. If I've gone for a bite to eat I always say I'll give him a stroke after I've eaten. To me handling pets and not washing your hands after is like not washing them after going to the toilet. I often wonder too why people who work full time (like the couple next to me) have dogs that will be in all day on their own, I don't think it is fair to them.

Although I like dogs, (I had one, years ago) I am getting fed up with owners taking them into cafes and restaurants and yes, into shops too.
A small dog on a lead walked in front of me, just before Christmas as I was looking at dresses in a clothes shop. I moved round the rail and as he wandered away from his owner's side - she was holding him on his lead but not bothered what he was up to - his lead dug across my shins and as I stepped firward, I nearly went flying. The owner, also browsing, hadn't noticed her dog moving near me, and when I cried out as I lost my balance, her concern was only for her dog, which had started yapping at me. She gave me a filthy look and tutted.
Thankfully a shop assistant noticed and came across, concerned that I might have hurt myself. At this point the dog owner may have realised her dog on lead had become an obstacle that shoppers had to navigate. No apology or concern was forthcoming. Other shoppers shared my concern and a small group of us had this very conversation - Dogs shouldn't be allowed in shops. One lady remarked the dog had been cocking his leg up near a clothes rail.
I also think cafes and restaurants shouldn't allow dogs. I really don't want to be bothered by a curious and often smelly and slobbering dog when I am eating.
We all love our pets but dogs surely don't have to accompany their owners on every outing?

Kate1949

*Some of you people* . Really?

Perhaps there should be a dog owning test to weed out bad owners?

Half in jest, more in earnest

I heartily approve of guide dogs, sheep dogs, drug detector dogs and so on but why does anyone need a dog to trip up shoppers, bark in cafes, scare children or spoil other people's beach picnics?

HURRAH for putting your head above the parapet! Couldn't agree more!

I could bore you all with dozens of dog stories, but I’m sure you’ve heard them all before, the main point is that the owners take no responsibility for their animals, one of my grandchildren was knocked to the ground by a boisterous dog more than ten years ago, and when you imagine being three, and having an enormous dog bounding towards you, that is pretty scary, and she’s still terrified of dogs.
In this case the owners take just laughed it off.
This is slightly more amusing, we were at a local beach recently, just sat on a bench chatting, we could hear this couple behind us chatting to their presumed toddler walking along the wall, they were heaping praise and encouragement on this little person, clapping their hands, and saying how proud they were, when they came into view it was as I’m sure you’ve already guessed, a dog! We were in fits of laughter

Good grief! The world is on the brink of war. The climate crisis is escalating beyond our wildest nightmares. We are at the mercy of several psychopathic world ‘leaders’ who are entirely lacking in moral compass, at least one of whom would likely press the nuclear button rather than lose his power. Existential distress is so huge that people are expending energy and effort taunting some of the most vulnerable in society. And you are worried about dogs!

Why is it that some topics bring out all those with polar opposite views. The most strident, the most entrenched so that what should be a reasoned discussion becomes a world class point scoring match.
Can we just agree that some people really do not like dogs and some people really do not like badly behaved children.
Enough said , end of story, move on!

LinkyPinky, as this thread confirms, dogs are making some of us happy and others very unhappy.
This thread is imo less polarised than many we’ve had on dog related issues. It also isn’t reflecting the awful polarised debates best demonstrated by the Donald. The I’m right, you’re wrong approach increasingly seen in discussions.

I love dogs, live with two. I’m concerned about untrained ‘fur babies’ causing chaos

ROMILO x posted there 🌞

BecauseRomilo "some" people resort to stereotyping rather than describing the behaviour of "some" people who own dogs, some people will ascribe the behaviours they dislike to "all " people who own dogs or even to "all" dogs rather than "some" dogs. Unsurprisingly, "some" people on this thread who own well trained, obedient dogs object. In fact, it even seems that "some" people even object to the use of the word "some" used correctly as a determiner.

foxie 😂 👏 👏 👏 👏 😂
I was wondering when someone would say that. Well done!