Dogs everywhere

Sorry, Romilo - autocorrect.

@Romiley, l think you already know exactly what I mean, which is that it is because of the lack of control by some dog owners and some parents that the dogs and children are badly behaved.

MartavTaurus

I was at the vets' surgery this morning, (3 yearly rabies jab), and there was a red notice on the wall, Please keep your dog on a lead in the waiting room. What owner wouldn't, but I guess some fools don't think?
Actually all the dogs were sitting nicely and owners chatting no probs.

My last dog would have been hiding under my chair!
He knew what might be coming.

ROMILO

Music girl
Since you singled out my post I will reply.
Hyperbole - an exaggeration not to be taken literally.
Exactly what I intended, hopefully to make people stop and think before posting some of the extreme views in this thread.
I find the second part of your post puzzling. Is it what you intended to say?
Dog owners are not responsible for their dogs behaviour nor are parents responsible for their children's behaviour. This implies that you think bad behaviour is inherent and cannot be modified in any way by responsible owners and training or by good ,caring parents.

What you said was inflammatory and you cannot put out a fire by throwing petrol on it.

Music girl
Since you singled out my post I will reply.
Hyperbole - an exaggeration not to be taken literally.
Exactly what I intended, hopefully to make people stop and think before posting some of the extreme views in this thread.
I find the second part of your post puzzling. Is it what you intended to say?
Dog owners are not responsible for their dogs behaviour nor are parents responsible for their children's behaviour. This implies that you think bad behaviour is inherent and cannot be modified in any way by responsible owners and training or by good ,caring parents.

I was at the vets' surgery this morning, (3 yearly rabies jab), and there was a red notice on the wall, Please keep your dog on a lead in the waiting room. What owner wouldn't, but I guess some fools don't think?
Actually all the dogs were sitting nicely and owners chatting no probs.

Posted too soon. I also think that everyone is blaming irresponsible owners rather than the dogs for bad behaviour, whether or not they are dog lovers. The same for badly behaved children - it is generally the parents' fault. I think a lot the problem in both these scenarios is that as a society we are increasingly losing sight of the commandment to treat others as we would wish to be treated ourselves. This also applies to all of us on social media platforms such as this one. I think we are all old enough to agree to disagree without resorting to personal attacks when we debate subjects such as this.

ROMILO

I feel very ,very sorry for those of you who have been threatened or hurt by an out of control dog but surely it is irrational to assume all dogs are therefore evil people haters. Your anger should be directed towards the irresponsible owner.

I don't think there is one poster here who has claimed that "all dogs are therefore evil people haters." What hyperbole. I also thi

I feel very ,very sorry for those of you who have been threatened or hurt by an out of control dog but surely it is irrational to assume all dogs are therefore evil people haters. Your anger should be directed towards the irresponsible owner.

Unfortunately, the well-behaved dog walking to heel on leash ( not dangerous extendable ones ) are now very rare

Not in and around my village where dogs are generally put on their leads (if off) when they see another dog walker in any of the fields which are popular dog walks or indeed in the neighbouring country park. So I can only go by my personal experience.

LinkyPinky

Good grief! The world is on the brink of war. The climate crisis is escalating beyond our wildest nightmares. We are at the mercy of several psychopathic world ‘leaders’ who are entirely lacking in moral compass, at least one of whom would likely press the nuclear button rather than lose his power. Existential distress is so huge that people are expending energy and effort taunting some of the most vulnerable in society. And you are worried about dogs!

Trying to compare oranges and apples never works.

It's true indeed imo M0nica - we do channel our fears into things we can control in times of crisis and this year is already proving very "interesting" indeed.

Cue for taking a look at the latest news all round - financial stuff, the ongoing Royal Soap Opera, etc and then going off to tie up the last of my personal "loose ends" - everything paid up to date, everything done up to date = own personal life under as tight a control as I can get (ie ready to head for the bunker - or back to bed - and watch as it all crashes around in Society and hope we've done enough to protect ourselves from what we see happening around us). But - yep....we do what we can to control our own little lives to within an inch of their life - as far as we can.

Forget the last two lines above, a remnant of the self-editing process.

LinkyPinky

Good grief! The world is on the brink of war. The climate crisis is escalating beyond our wildest nightmares. We are at the mercy of several psychopathic world ‘leaders’ who are entirely lacking in moral compass, at least one of whom would likely press the nuclear button rather than lose his power. Existential distress is so huge that people are expending energy and effort taunting some of the most vulnerable in society. And you are worried about dogs!

Of ccourse we are. You are catastrophying about things over which we have no control. At times like this one way of coping is to channel our fears into things over which we do have control.

The world has been on the brink of war for the whole of my life. - that began in WW2. I was a university student when the Cuban Missile Crisis occurred, my father served in the army in the Far East during the Korean War. 80 plus years later Armegeddon has yet to strike. That holds no promises for the future

On the otherhand I have been attacked and injured by a dog on a lead in the hands of someone walking dogs they were not strong enough to control, and where I used to live, that remained a daily danger whenever I went for a walk. So, yes, I do worry about dogs.

On the

Having been attacked and injured by dogs there owner was too weaak to hold back

Martav/Taurus I'm really sympathetic towards people who are allergic or frightened of dogs. My dog is well behaved and obedient and nearly all the dogs I encounter in my life are the same, probably because they are owned by people who are not first time owners.
Sadly I think during lockdown there were a lot of dogs that had been bred indiscriminately and sold to first time owners with little experience of dog behaviour who were unable to access puppy classes or socialise their dogs properly. I genuinely think it's a problem but I strongly object to having my dog being lumped with those dogs who have not been correctly trained.
Several of my friends have taken on rescue dogs with behavioural problems and with correct and consistent training they now have lovely family dogs. Place the blame where it belongs when you see dogs behaving badly ie with it's owner.

foxie 😂 👏 👏 👏 👏 😂
I was wondering when someone would say that. Well done!

BecauseRomilo "some" people resort to stereotyping rather than describing the behaviour of "some" people who own dogs, some people will ascribe the behaviours they dislike to "all " people who own dogs or even to "all" dogs rather than "some" dogs. Unsurprisingly, "some" people on this thread who own well trained, obedient dogs object. In fact, it even seems that "some" people even object to the use of the word "some" used correctly as a determiner.

ROMILO x posted there 🌞

LinkyPinky, as this thread confirms, dogs are making some of us happy and others very unhappy.
This thread is imo less polarised than many we’ve had on dog related issues. It also isn’t reflecting the awful polarised debates best demonstrated by the Donald. The I’m right, you’re wrong approach increasingly seen in discussions.

I love dogs, live with two. I’m concerned about untrained ‘fur babies’ causing chaos

Why is it that some topics bring out all those with polar opposite views. The most strident, the most entrenched so that what should be a reasoned discussion becomes a world class point scoring match.
Can we just agree that some people really do not like dogs and some people really do not like badly behaved children.
Enough said , end of story, move on!

Good grief! The world is on the brink of war. The climate crisis is escalating beyond our wildest nightmares. We are at the mercy of several psychopathic world ‘leaders’ who are entirely lacking in moral compass, at least one of whom would likely press the nuclear button rather than lose his power. Existential distress is so huge that people are expending energy and effort taunting some of the most vulnerable in society. And you are worried about dogs!

I could bore you all with dozens of dog stories, but I’m sure you’ve heard them all before, the main point is that the owners take no responsibility for their animals, one of my grandchildren was knocked to the ground by a boisterous dog more than ten years ago, and when you imagine being three, and having an enormous dog bounding towards you, that is pretty scary, and she’s still terrified of dogs.
In this case the owners take just laughed it off.
This is slightly more amusing, we were at a local beach recently, just sat on a bench chatting, we could hear this couple behind us chatting to their presumed toddler walking along the wall, they were heaping praise and encouragement on this little person, clapping their hands, and saying how proud they were, when they came into view it was as I’m sure you’ve already guessed, a dog! We were in fits of laughter

HURRAH for putting your head above the parapet! Couldn't agree more!

Perhaps there should be a dog owning test to weed out bad owners?

Half in jest, more in earnest

I heartily approve of guide dogs, sheep dogs, drug detector dogs and so on but why does anyone need a dog to trip up shoppers, bark in cafes, scare children or spoil other people's beach picnics?

Kate1949

*Some of you people* . Really?