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Iam64

Welcome to gransnet Mrs Bennet, you’re just the sort of lady David believes in

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We married 55 years ago, I didn't marry for security even all those years ago. I married DH because I wanted to be with him. Security never crossed my mind.

Allira

Less than 50% of adults in the UK are married or in a civil partnership.

With the divorce rate as high as it is Im not surprised, some remarry some don't.
When I lost my wife I decided to find a new partner, after 3 yrs together we did marry, so I must be doing something right. She didn't like being solo any more than I did, together we have a really good life

Welcome to gransnet Mrs Bennet, you’re just the sort of lady David believes in

And for David or anybody to extrapolate that

and chose to get married *for the extra security that gives then, as the vast majority would* is reading an additional motivation into it .
The “status” connection made me laugh too.
So very Jane Austen
“If I can but see one of my daughters happily settled at Netherfield,” said Mrs. Bennet to her husband, “and all the others equally well married, I shall have nothing to wish for.”

Less than 50% of adults in the UK are married or in a civil partnership.

Allira

David49

Allira

That exactly my point they were asked and chose to get married for the extra security that gives then, as the vast majority would.

I think data from the ONS might well prove that assertion to be wrong.

The ONS quote that 1 in 5 couples choose to cohabit and not marry.
That qualifies as "most". you can admit you are wrong but I don't expect it.

you can admit you are wrong but I don't expect it.
No, I won't admit I'm wrong when I am not.

asked? What century are you living in?
This becomes more and more bizarre.

So you refuse to believe ONS

David49

Thats over 2 pages of feminism Im doing really well.

Women get married if they can because if they don't both have the freedom to walk away with just maintenance for children. In bereavement a partner can be left with nothing, thats really silly.

You do really come up with the weirdest fantasies.
Your first sentence doesn’t even make sense, and your point about bereavement is precisely what?

It’s not feminism to recognise that since the mid- 20th century when long overdue equal rights were eventually granted to women, women have as often as not had to rely on their own intelligence, education, business acumen, talent, strength and ability to lead independent lives.
To choose their own partners, marry or not, change their name or not, have children or not, buy property or not, earn the same as a man for the same work to succeed to the monarchy, to be Prime Minister, but ultimately - to think and act for themselves

Your personal experience sounds sadly limited if you are still unaware of this.

grumppa

I think the last person I discussed boats with was round the world yachtswoman Tracy Edwards. So much for generalisations about the sexes.

Good to see you grumppa
Quite a relief, in fact! 😀

David49

Allira

That exactly my point they were asked and chose to get married for the extra security that gives then, as the vast majority would.

I think data from the ONS might well prove that assertion to be wrong.

The ONS quote that 1 in 5 couples choose to cohabit and not marry.
That qualifies as "most". you can admit you are wrong but I don't expect it.

you can admit you are wrong but I don't expect it.
No, I won't admit I'm wrong when I am not.

asked? What century are you living in?
This becomes more and more bizarre.

Allira

^That exactly my point they were asked and chose to get married for the extra security that gives then, as the vast majority would.^

I think data from the ONS might well prove that assertion to be wrong.

The ONS quote that 1 in 5 couples choose to cohabit and not marry.
That qualifies as "most". you can admit you are wrong but I don't expect it.

That exactly my point they were asked and chose to get married for the extra security that gives then, as the vast majority would.

I think data from the ONS might well prove that assertion to be wrong.

status
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David49

"Why do some women take their husband's name when they marry even today?

For the same reasons that they marry, security and status, there are very few women who would refuse to be a wife if asked.

It's mostly professional women who use their maiden name

ROFL!!

oh, keep 'em coming David49 😂

Actually, I changed my surname to DH's when I married because I preferred it. However, having researched family history, I've begun to rather like my original surname now.

As I said earlier, David parrots an opinion as fact and never apologises for being offensive. "It's what most do in 21st century." Has he given any evidence? Nope. Just the world according to David

Lona

Who wants to be equal to men, why should we lower ourselves to their level!?

I agree you shouldn't want to be the same as men.

Hello grumppa

I think the last person I discussed boats with was round the world yachtswoman Tracy Edwards. So much for generalisations about the sexes.

Thats over 2 pages of feminism Im doing really well.

Women get married if they can because if they don't both have the freedom to walk away with just maintenance for children. In bereavement a partner can be left with nothing, thats really silly.

I dunno. I stopped talking to dh about politics during his brief dalliance with the lib dems

David49

Im a centrist, my wife has more right wing opinions we don't discuss politics and I don't know which way she votes. The comments other men make indicate more to the right of my own opinion, some far right.
Even my grandsons have right wing opinions, granddaughters one quite liberal, other neutral.

How can you live with someone and never discuss politics?

Perhaps you assume your wife is only interested in talking about family matters.

I’m afraid you are digging yourself a hole.

Iam64

Come on RosiesMawAgain, David has made it clear that he knows best. Don’t be acting like a professional feminist with ideas above your station.
I have my father’s last name, mr I didn’t expect or want me to take his name when we married, I reciprocated. Our girls had both our names. One of them took her husband’s name on marriage, the other didn’t.

As for David’s entertaining views on professional women - I’m wondering which universe he lives in

It's of no interest to me whether a maiden name is used, some do some don't, your daughters also valued the advantages of marriage, exactly as I first said most do just that.

It's not my opinion it's what most do, that is fact in the 21st century.

Who wants to be equal to men, why should we lower ourselves to their level!?

David49

"I appreciate given the demographic of GN you may be of advanced years, but that does not necessarily excuse a 19 th century outlook."

Only in your mind , marriage is alive and well for women in the 21st century. It's men that are increasingly questioning the sacrifices marriages involve, most women are not stupid, gaining a share of a husbands wealth is always going to be a gain.

Truly offensive as well you know

‘Security ‘ hasn’t influenced any woman I know in choosing whether or not to marry
Legal security can be established with joint agreement if people prefer not to marry