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Whatever happened to grammar and spelling?

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CariGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 27-Sept-12 08:42:20

This week's guest blog post is one to appeal to the pedants amongst us <raises hand enthusiastically>

Do add your comments here.

The authors of the post - Katherine Fry and Rowena Kirton - have two signed copies of their book to give away and will be picking their favourite comments left between now and midday on Thurs 4 October to win them. It goes without saying that comments are welcome at any time - not just up to the closing date.

Greatnan Tue 23-Oct-12 17:23:12

My grandson's class were studying the Boer war . Unfortuntely, the teacher labelled the display 'The Boar War'. I didn't tell her.

Beachee Tue 23-Oct-12 12:30:16

absentgrana smile

absentgrana Tue 23-Oct-12 09:10:38

Beachee My daughter when little wrote about visiting her grandparents and taking the dog for a walk along the sward, which is what they called the expanse of grass behind the beach where they lived. Her teacher "corrected" it to sword. Quite an achievement for two adults, one child and a Yorkshire terrier.

Joan Tue 23-Oct-12 03:22:47

AAArrrgh - he/she'd probably been misled by spell check after getting leopard wrong. But how could he/she not have realised?

Beachee Mon 22-Oct-12 20:28:00

Many moons ago, when my children were in primary school, the class had been copying a photo of a leopard in their art lesson. The teacher had put all of their wonderful artwork on the wall and had written a big sign underneath ... "Do you like our lepers?" hmm

Stansgran Mon 22-Oct-12 13:19:32

Today in The Times an article about digging graves-the grave diggers had some grizzly(sic) tales to tell -presumably about corpses being eaten by bears.

Joan Mon 22-Oct-12 12:54:13

And she would say (of Cynthia) "She knows you know!"

feetlebaum Mon 22-Oct-12 11:28:40

"Hilda Baker used to say 'I was stood standing there'. Always made me smile. I've noticed comedians often misuse language to create humorous effect."

Hylda (her spelling) B was a prolific user of Malapropisms, to great effect -

"She was in hospital for a hysterical rectumy" and a heart attack patient had suffered a "colostomy trombonist"!

She also used a strange phrase that seems to have been peculiar to her:
rebuking 'Cynthia' for tardiness, "I said be soon, didn't I? Be soooon, I said".

Joan Mon 22-Oct-12 11:03:14

I did rub out a greengrocer's apostrophe the other day, when no-one was looking!

annodomini Mon 22-Oct-12 09:33:49

Though out of teaching for a decade, I still have a red pen in my head! Luckily not in my handbag, or I'd be sorely tempted to use it.

Joan Mon 22-Oct-12 08:58:11

I tell myself the same thing, Greatnan, but it is so very hard.

I think I handle bad grammar like my husband handles other people's bad driving; not very well!! I went to a grammar school and studied foreign languages including Latin: he has had advanced driving training, so we both have an advantage in these matters. At least bad grammar doesn't have the potential to kill. It is merely annoying.

PS I was an utterly hopeless driver!!

Greatnan Mon 22-Oct-12 08:28:22

After years of seething pedantry, I have come to the conclusion that life is too short to worry about other people's misuse of grammar or punctuation. Some of the brightest people I know are dyslexic.

isthisallthereis Mon 22-Oct-12 00:18:19

Joan you'll never make a prefect until you're perfect.

Joan Sun 21-Oct-12 23:32:01

Beachee love your example: I could of wrote book's and book's! So your lucky I wasn't!
We could go on: ^ 'You should of come to grammer lessons with Beachee and I'^
That's the one that really annoys me, using 'I' when it should be 'me': this is the prefect example of overcompensation.

petallus Sun 21-Oct-12 22:38:30

Hilda Baker used to say 'I was stood standing there'. Always made me smile. I've noticed comedians often misuse language to create humorous effect.

Another is 'the play what I wrote' (Morecombe and Wise)

I suppose there are many more.

nanaej Sun 21-Oct-12 21:56:39

I am not a pedant about spelling because I have watched children struggle to understand the complexities of our 'exception to the rule' non-phonetic English spelling. I have seen clever and bright adults unable to get work, that does not require ace spelling or readingskills, because reading is hard for them.

I just get really annoyed when people say 'off of' . No idea why this particular incorrect grammatical phrase gets under my skin! I cope well with all other 'poor grammar' grin

Beachee Sun 21-Oct-12 19:08:24

Oh I wish I'd been a member when this thread was started! I could of wrote book's and book's! So your lucky I wasn't! wink

Well done to Milly, that was a good one!

Nonu Sun 21-Oct-12 17:32:55

Isthisallthereis , like it ! [moon and sunshine , although gone now . ]

crimson Sun 21-Oct-12 17:07:17

Ever tried, ever failed,no matter; try again, fail again, fail better.....

isthisallthereis Sun 21-Oct-12 16:55:19

I agree strongly with deedaa I love adapting the language to what I want it to say. "I was stood" is an excellent example. I'll rummage around behind my forehead for some more examples. Don't hold yr breath!

Writing yr rather than your as above, I've realised is a possible written example. "Don't hold yr breath" seems that bit more snappy than "Don't hold your breath", which is all long vowel sounds!

btw - "Whatever happened to spelling?", back to the original question. On my local station I saw written on a whiteboard outside the platform buffet "Bag-its. £3.95". I reckoned it was logical; you do, after all put them "in a bag" smile

Deedaa Sat 13-Oct-12 21:24:15

The things that drive me insane are "would of", "bored of", "may have" instead of "might have" and "can I get" instead of "may I have" and of course the greengrocer's apostrophe smile
Don't worry petallus, my daughter has a PhD and writes many erudite papers but she always has to ring me to check up on effect/affect. Her golden rule is never to buy anything on ebay from someone can't spell or uses textspeak.
of course there is always a case for using bad grammar deliberately for effect. My mother's favourite was "I was stood standing there" which always seemed much more dramatic than just standing grin

soop Wed 10-Oct-12 13:42:19

Well done, Milly flowers

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 10-Oct-12 13:33:39

Congratulations to Milly, whose comment about Kate Middleton/topless photos has won her the signed copy of the book.

Milly - watch out for an email from us shortly!

Stansgran Tue 02-Oct-12 18:18:35

I had a newsletter from the clever man who sorts out our computer and he lists the latest scams whirling round cyber space. He said usually they are self evident because of the poor spelling and grammar. So if you don't have any good grammar and spelling background how do you recognise these scams? Perhaps that is why so many people get caught up because they don't recognise Loyd's is not Lloyds Bank etc

whenim64 Tue 02-Oct-12 17:50:23

Bags grin I'm showing that to my iPad. It thinks it's cleverer than me! flippin' is! hmm