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Whatever happened to grammar and spelling?

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CariGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 27-Sep-12 08:42:20

This week's guest blog post is one to appeal to the pedants amongst us <raises hand enthusiastically>

Do add your comments here.

The authors of the post - Katherine Fry and Rowena Kirton - have two signed copies of their book to give away and will be picking their favourite comments left between now and midday on Thurs 4 October to win them. It goes without saying that comments are welcome at any time - not just up to the closing date.

binga12 Sun 27-Jan-13 10:39:07

My pet hate is all the A's and D's that have disappeared as in fish 'n' chips etc.

Lilygran Thu 20-Dec-12 20:22:04

Suki grin

Suki Thu 20-Dec-12 19:39:51

So interesting reading all your comments, Grans. My husband and I have a real gripe about those ubiquitous apostrophes. If there's an "s" on the end of a word, it seems to be open season to put one before it. My husband is a lawyer and so his letters tend to be BORING "legalese" and picky about fine detail, but even he can't get to grips with "I" being the subject of the verb. He is not alone in this. I've heard and seen the same error from newsreaders, journalists, authors and others, that is people whose jobs are to do with words and grammar and communication. No wonder he and me struggle with some particular grammatical rule's if proffesionals ca'nt get it write. grin

Nelliemoser Thu 25-Oct-12 20:27:16

absentgrana If we are being pedants about spelling, I do have to tell you that the battle of Bosworth was in 1485. wink (I know that date better than I know some spellings.)

Beachee Thu 25-Oct-12 19:07:58

Absentgran, that's great!"

There's a Tattoo Parlour in town with huge orange letters arched across the window ... "TATTOO'S"!

absentgrana Thu 25-Oct-12 16:00:05

I have just remembered my favourite of all time – a sign on a south coast beach. Do not collect muscles from the groin.

Stansgran Thu 25-Oct-12 15:37:18

and today in S'bury's their delicious guinea fowl were of course FOUL- I'm optimistic that the poor creatures will be on the reduced shelf tomorrow night and I will be able to bag a few for the freezer.

AlieOxon Thu 25-Oct-12 13:52:56

I think my fingers have dyslexia, especially in the evening!

Greatnan Thu 25-Oct-12 09:57:46

I have noticed that my ability to recall the spelling of any word I have ever met seems to have diminished with age. I usually do know the correct spelling, but I have lost some of my confidence, so I always press check before I post. Some of the interpretations make me smile!

FlicketyB Thu 25-Oct-12 08:55:41

My fingers get confused and go on the keys in the wrong order; fro, teh and wehre are regular examples

absentgrana Thu 25-Oct-12 08:42:29

It's not spelling that's a problem – it's my tendency to type in chords as my fingers attempt to keep up with my thoughts.

Beachee Wed 24-Oct-12 22:41:27

I think you are right there Annodomini.
We native Brits don't need to understand it in the same way

annodomini Wed 24-Oct-12 22:36:54

I suppose, Beachee that the reason is that the second-language students are learning the spelling at the same time as they are learning the language whereas native Brits learn to speak long before they learn to read or spell.

Ana Wed 24-Oct-12 22:34:59

confused

Beachee Wed 24-Oct-12 22:30:00

in my experience (as a TEFL/ESOL teacher), the "bad spellers" are more often than not the GB variety smile

annodomini Wed 24-Oct-12 22:26:36

Now I remember dictation. I'm sure children nowadays don't have that exercise. I was a good speller in primary school but when I got to secondary school I suddenly became a perfect speller, and I could never understand what made the difference. Maybe learning other languages? When I taught second language speakers in Kenya, in almost five years, I only ever had one pupil who was a bad speller.

AlieOxon Wed 24-Oct-12 22:19:32

Not surprised at the Irish comment - I could get an Irish passport....

My spelling ok except for one or two quirky words - an early reader again. But I still remember the first time I met 'ascertain' in dictation!

Ana Wed 24-Oct-12 19:47:25

Yes, same here - pictureskew for example! grin

FlicketyB Wed 24-Oct-12 19:02:06

Underslept? Irish English, like 'having drink taken'

My 5 year old GD, in a primary school recently classed as failing for very minimal reasons, is busy mastering the rules of punctuation; commas, full stops, exclamation and question marks.

Spelling is can be taught formally but is mainly learnt by reading. My spelling was good because I was an early and omniverous reader. Pronunciation was a bit wobbly because I could read many words before I ever heard them said.

Jendurham Wed 24-Oct-12 14:28:50

I was a teacher at the time your daughter was at school. I always used to correct spellings, though not always all of them. It could be too discouraging to some pupils. However, I never used to put sp. in the margin, and I never used a red pen.
What is the point of telling children they cannot spell and then not giving them the correct spelling? They would have to write out the correct spelling in a small book, after I had written it in their work.
However, what was more important was to tell children they could spell most words correctly. In most pieces of writing there are only a few words misspelt. I consider myself fortunate that I do not have problems with spelling. I taught myself to read sitting on my dad's knee, while he read the newspaper to me before I was 5.

annodomini Tue 23-Oct-12 18:57:07

If one can oversleep, logically it should be possible to undersleep. When was our language ever logical?

AlieOxon Tue 23-Oct-12 18:12:14

Underslept is good too! That's me today....

crimson Tue 23-Oct-12 17:35:32

I was reading an article bout Edna O'Brien last night, and she said how well she wrote when the urban foxes had kept her awake and she was 'unslept'. I was trying to work out [not being very up to speed with grammar] what sort of word unslept is. I felt that she'd used it in the wrong way, but it sounded perfect. I intend to steal it and use it for myself in the future.

annodomini Tue 23-Oct-12 17:27:00

Nice one absent.

absentgrana Tue 23-Oct-12 17:26:22

Greatnan Would that have been the one that ended at Bosworth Field in 1415?