The first time I think I heard those words was when the first forces personnel were killed in Afganistan, or it could have been in the first Gulf war, sadly we have heard it far too many times now, and this comment was said by the P.M. then their opposite number and all other parties,in parliament, usually at P.M's question time. I'm not criticising the words themselves I think we all know what they are trying to say, but I being the mother of a son in the forces dread those words being said. I know there are other occasions when they are said too and think it is sad that they ever need to be used. I do agree with FlicketyB about lessons will be learnt, that drives me insane, if kids at school took so long to learn lessons the country would be in uproar. (Sorry if I've strayed off the thread.)