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LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 14-Feb-14 09:44:36

Escaping gun culture

What would make you leave your home to seek greener pastures? Noisy neighbours? Anti-social behaviour? How about gunshots on your doorstep? Candace Drimmer tells us why she's desperately hoping to join her daughter and grandchildren in the UK.

Candace Drimmer

Bon bini y'all

Posted on: Fri 14-Feb-14 09:44:36


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Could you put up with gun crime in your neighbourhood?

Nothing focuses the mind like a gunshot outside of your home. On Christmas night 2013 from inside of our townhouse in a good neighbourhood, I watched a fight devolve into a single gunshot. I’d already called the US equivalent of 999; the police arrived within a minute of the “pop”.

Wasn’t it bad enough when man high on unknown substance walked down the aisle of the bus with hand in his pocket smilingly chanting, “I’ve got a gun”? Wasn’t it bad enough when a drug buy went down with gun shots three blocks away? The gun culture finally came knocking on my door.

Having begged my husband before to get out of the idiocy of the American gun culture, this time he finally said, “Look into it.” With our daughter, her darling husband (who always without irony complains that our 5-week stays are too short) and our two grandsons UK citizens, we thought we’d have a leg up.

Wasn't it bad enough when a drug buy went down with gun shots three blocks away? The gun culture finally came knocking on my door.

We’d lived abroad for 20 years in Canada (twice, initiating Landed Immigrant status), Paraguay, Peru, Ecuador, Mexico and the Netherland Antilles. We do expatriate. So we scoured the net to find the rules to immigrate. After the holidays, we made an appointment an immigration solicitor we knew.

Meanwhile our daughter found a retirement immigration category which was ideal for us, retired people with enough to live on to not be a burden. Then the solicitor spoke to us popping our dream, the retirement category had been eliminated 27th November 2008 due to underuse. The door slammed firmly in our faces, there is no status for anti-gun refugees.

Today’s news only adds fuel to the gunfire I hear. The Chicago ban on the sale of guns was shot down by a Federal judge. Help me David Cameron, you’re my only hope.

By Candace Drimmer

Twitter: @Sherlockianone

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 14-Feb-14 14:18:01

I find this quite shocking. And very sad.

Why would they not let a harmless retired couple come to live in the UK to be near their family?! They have enough money put by to not rely on State handouts. Seems insane.

jcdoh Fri 14-Feb-14 17:00:06

hi lucygransnet

this is dreadful; why not do what the Europeans do, waltz in under false pretences --then take up a scholarship or such! what have you got to lose ?
TIME wont wait for these insensitive ministers, over blown with their egos and laws for persecution of innocent folk!!

phone or email Cameron tell him babies/children growing up cannot be put on HOLD while they decide the if s and but s !

lifes too short to waste it .

PhilippaS Fri 14-Feb-14 18:32:36

Can't they move to another European country, become residents of that country, then move here as Europeans?

AAAHappyMan Fri 14-Feb-14 22:37:09

I feel great sympathy for this couple, in the same way that I also feel for the thousands of grandparents who will not be allowed to even pay a visit to their UK born g'children because they can't afford the financial 'Deposit' required.
jinglbellsfrocks Fri 14-Feb-14 ''They have enough money put by to not rely on State handouts. Seems insane.''
State handouts ? ?
Oh ! You mean the benefits that people are entitled to as part of our Welfare state to which we all contribute in one way or another? Benefits such as our Free at the point of need NHS. You will, of course, be expecting this couple to take out a comprehensive Health Insurance ?

AAAHappyMan Fri 14-Feb-14 22:44:53

jcdoh Fri 14-Feb-14 '' ... why not do what the Europeans do, waltz in under false pretences .''
Do you mean '' .... what the NON Europeans do ... '' ?
Or do you perhaps live in Switzerland and want to have your Swiss roll, and eat it too regarding freedom of movement within the EU and associates?

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 14-Feb-14 23:04:34

Have you got a stutter Happyman? smile

Elegran Fri 14-Feb-14 23:25:04

I think the AA may be so as to be first if the posts are in alphabetical order.

But I am not sure why HappyMan is getting at you. You were not attacking anyone or expecting them to take out health insurance. His boiling point is quite low, I'd say.

Elegran Fri 14-Feb-14 23:26:24

And he does not aim his blows very accurately.

jcdoh Sat 15-Feb-14 15:01:18

thanks Elegran, some folk cant read, or maybe turn blind eye ? lol
there was no malice in my blog, only facts and hopes for this sad couple!
by the way what makes you think a couple who can support themselves , would want to join our sad and wrecked NHS

Deedaa Tue 18-Feb-14 21:43:25

We had to jump through a lot of hoops to get my daughter's fiance over here. We had to prove she could support him (difficult as she was a student) and until he got British nationality they had to go down to Croydon every year to get permission for him to stay another year.
Of course there had been no problem about him living here when he was in the US Navy.

Since DH was diagnosed with cancer I have been in touch with a lot of sufferers in the US jcdoh and we would far rather have the NHS than the apalling maze if insurance, grants and charity which seem to apply in America.

AAAHappyMan Sat 15-Mar-14 01:09:00

jinglbellsfrocks Fri 14-Feb-14 23:04:34
Have you got a stutter Happyman? smile
Is that supposed to be funny, or just gratuitously offensive? Are you perhaps a near relative of Bernard Manning?

AAAHappyMan Sat 15-Mar-14 01:17:02

And some can't : punctuate; use correct syntax or capital letters; ...
What a bore you are, jcdoh.

Lona Sat 15-Mar-14 08:12:00

You're not much fun yourself AAAHappyMan.

Nelliemoser Sat 15-Mar-14 08:41:00

I assume they were never UK citizens.

My friend had to have her daughter guarantee funds for her upkeep should she not be able to live independently in Canada and I understand Australia ask a similar bond. Someone thinking of going some years ago needed a £10k "bond" I assume it was in case he became a burden on the state and needed sending back home.

They could surely work out something like this here in the UK. The USA are pretty tough about who they let in though.

Try moving to northern France, a quick channel tunnel away. Most of Northern Europe is fairly civilised.

AAAHappyMan Sat 22-Mar-14 20:50:49


AAAHappyMan Sat 22-Mar-14 20:54:01

Lona Sat 15-Mar-14 08:12:00 ''You're not much fun yourself AAAHappyMan''
You've obviously changed your mind, Lona