The issue of dog turds is not a major national or international issue but I do think it is a reflection of a community. If local dog owners think that they do not need to consider the needs of their neighbours & their families and allow their dogs to foul pavements, play areas and playing fields and everywhere is littered with turds or bags of turds it does not sound a pleasant place to be!
Dogs are not humans and whilst I know they can be much loved and be a comfort and help people (working / guide dogs etc) their needs should not be a priority above those of people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU4mfmU9lrE seems there are people who are able to train dogs to poop in a particular place. Dog owners' back gardens would be my choice!

If he thinks that having stinking turds smeared all over your house as a result of someone stepping into dog's mess isn't a big deal, then he is probably not the one who cleans the carpets in his house. So what if the "psychological" reason behind our repulsion is because it is similar to our own omnivore turds - would it be OK to step in those and smear them around? They smell even worse than human ones, anyway, if that is possible.

In a perfect world, all dog owners would remove the evidence and take it home, or put it in a poo bin. If they did, there would not be as many CRAP patrols. More poo bins are needed, regularly emptied, and more awareness that putting it in a plastic bag is not the end of it - if that bag then lies around or hangs in a tree - eurgghhh! - it is as bad as leaving the turd lying on the path to decompose. Maybe worse, since it delays decomposition, and a wild animal eating it, bag and all, will have the bag stuck in their gut.

And what is wrong with wanting a village to be as clean to walk around in as a town? Are village carpets easier to keep clean than town ones? Village children immune to infections and parasites? Mud is inevitable, pet poo is not.

Now it's been changed to Villem Sax and her post has been changed too

Did Eloethan change it herself or was it changed for her?

Is that allowed?

I puppy walked for Guide Dogs For The Blind at one time and one if the things we had to do was train them to "get busy" in an specific place in the garden before we went for a walk.

I'm not going barmy then. I thought the name had been different when I posted about the article. How odd.

granoveve, I don't know if dogs can be toilet trained, but at one time my parents had a labrador who wouldn't 'go' anywhere but in her own garden and would tow my poor mother home at high speed if she felt the need. I suspect that this habit was inculcated when, as a puppy, she was praised for 'doing the business' in the garden rather than on the kitchen floor.

Thank goodness for that River!
Somebody slipped up at Gransnet Towers?

Not just you Jane when I saw Elo's post I thought, who is she referring to?

I remembered the blog was originally by Michael something.

Be interesting to see if she originally said Michael

I'm puzzled.
When this thread opened yesterday, it was signed off by someone called Michael Something.

Eloethan said she tended to agree with Michael Something.

Now it's been changed to Villem Sax and her post has been changed too.

I clicked on Villem Sax link at the top of the blog and he appears to have written a book, which judging by the Amazon precis, is critical of incomers to villages:
" England’s green and pleasant land is peppered with hundreds of impossibly cute villages. Before the coming of large towns and modern cities most people lived in these rural settlements. They had a symbiotic relationship with the surrounding countryside.
The bond between the village and the land has disappeared for good. Villagers are now invariably incomers, blow-ins and often retired"

Does anyone else have this recollection or am I going completely bonkers and should I make that appointment with the doctor??

I cannot believe that anyone capable of throwing poo bags into trees will be bothered with bins, they are horrible people with no concern for others.
Our streets and playing field are fine for the most part. It is our nearby woods that are polluted. I suspect that owners let their dogs off into the woods and do not watch them, or because there is no one watching them think that it won't be noticed among the leaf litter. I'm not sure, but I think that because the wood is privately owned it is not subject to the fouling laws. It is a large wood several hundred acres, plenty of space for dogs to wander far and wide without control. Paths across farmland also suffer the same fate, although to a lesser extent.

We only hear from responsible dog owners who clear up, I doubt that those that allow fouling would announce the fact.

Nfk, isn't the dog next to the baby or the shopping or the picnic basket?

Lots of poo bins near where I live, and there are at least ten people fined a month for dog fouling in the county.

Pompa people hang poo bags on hedges to prove a point - that a bin is needed. Taking home poo bags in the back of the car just isn't nice, especially if it's next to the picnic basket or the shopping or the baby.

I live on a dog walking route but think I'm quite fortunate. No dog poo - and very little litter either because there are bins along the route.

I do feel for elderly and infirm people who love and need their doggy companions but are physically unable to pick up after them. My mother could never take her dog for a walk, something she missed terribly.

Thinking on, I now ask offenders if they needs one of my poo bags.

PS We also have lots of Poo Bins.

I'm glad I don't live near you Mishap & Pompa. We must have a more responsible set of dog owners here as I never see dog poo on the streets any more and very, very rarely in our parks and public places.

I put that down to three things. Firstly we have a very visible Dog Warden. She's often to seen in her Hi-Viz jacket with Dog Warden on it and patrols regularly. Secondly if you are caught it's up to a £1,000 fine and there are notices displayed prominently. Finally, and possibly, most important, it is not socially acceptable and we, of the dog walking community, have been known to say to less responsible owners 'I hope you're going to pick that up'.

OK. You might get a mouthful of abuse from the odd person, but who cares about that?

Poo bins in public places might reduce the number of plastic bags of dog faeces dangling from trees and shrubs.

Why do we need poo bins in public places, just take it home and dispose of it. Why should someone else have to collect owners dog poo, what an awful job. Also why on earth do some dog owners collect the poo in bags then throw it up trees and into bushes. Our local woods are now a no go area unless you are prepared to scrap poo off your boots.

Our village has an annual fete with dog show. I leave you to imagine the state of the green. My DDs do not like to go now as they have to keep the children under such close supervision, and it becomes almost impossible to keep the pushchair wheels out of the muck. It used to be a great family event before it included the dog show - what a shame.

I always cleared up poo from my dog wherever the dear boy chose to place it. In fact, for about six months after he died I still habitually shoved a heap of poo bags into my pocket whenever I left the house.

When our children were young my friends and I all had what we referred to as the "shit kit" – a bucket, disinfectant, brushes, etc. – because of the need to clean the wheels of buggies, scooters, trainer bikes and so on, as well as Wellington boots and the soles of shoes pretty much whenever the children went out.

What happened to the bins for dog poo that used to be located in parks and other public places?

I won't have a dog again because of the need to pick up the poo, but I do agree it should be removed. My neighbour always sends his dog for a run in the garden before taking it out for a walk so he can clear it up with a shovel and not have to carry it round. He reckons that works, but I didn't know dogs could be toilet trained like that.

Re the size of fines for different offences:
I know lots of people who have been fined for speeding; I can't think of one who has been caught, let alone punished, for allowing a dog to foul a public area.

Watching one of the hunts execising their 50-strong pack by taking them for a walk in the countryside. Not a poo bag in sight. Yuk!

I have always shared my life with dogs. I have two currently,plus a puppy I'm looking after for a week. I pick up and never let my dogs off lead near children's play areas. Our local park is becoming a danger zone because a number of so called 'professional dog walkers' are using it. Never seen one of them with a pooh bag and recently one young woman had 11 dogs off lead on the football pitch. No handler can control 11 dogs in that environment, especially dogs she may not know very well. One man drives to the gate with 5 dogs bouncing around in his car, opens the door and let's them run. When I asked him to control them, because my young dog is nervous on lead with unknown dogs surrounding him, he swore at me and told me my dog was the problem then! I've spoken to the dog warden and local police, as have many other regular dog walkers. The response - a new pick up after your dog sign at the point the man lets his dogs run. I'd hate not to be able to let my dogs run free at appropriate places, their recall is good, they mix well with dogs they know. I wouldn't want them any where near 5 or worse, 11 dogs running together. There have been a number of stories in the press recently about dogs being lost by professional dog walkers. A major problem is that the dogs being walked by these people don't know each other - it's a disaster waiting to happen. I'm very cautious about using the park, which is huge, with lots of open space, streams, woodland and so perfect for dogs at times when there are no young children around.

Dogs diet is lower in meat than cats.
If everyone used poo bags properly and do not let their animal out of sight, so they know any poo activity, things would be better.
What annoys me is people putting their pets poo in bags and then leave the bags along the verge.
We are lucky here being very rural with a lot of land inhabited by animals it's not really a problem. The foxes are also very fond of dog poo and do a good job of cleaning up!