Remembrance Sunday

I remember the press and fuss about Michael Foot - poor man.

Surely this was a day to remember and feel sorrow for all the lives lost in war. The servicemen and women who died or were wounded would have been of many religious faiths and denominations or none and of many political persuasions. All their lives should surely be remembered as being of equal value. It feels as if there is bullying going on here of a person only seen on television whose circumstances and beliefs we don't really know. Surely rousing up anger against people who we see as "other" than ourselves is one of the things that causes war.

Oreo

I don’t think Boris would be recognisable with combed hair.😄

Well he looked an absolute mess. And where is the uproar- remember the Press and all re Corbyn!

You’re making a few assumptions there OP!

Maybe he isn’t a Christian so all the hymns and prayers wouldn’t have been relevant to him, and perhaps even blasphemous depending on his faith system, if he has one!

You mention he didn’t get a programme, so maybe he was discriminated against and not given one as a hostile and racist act against the Scottish people and party. That’s enough to put anyone in a bad mood isn’t it?

You say you thought he had a churlish and disrespectful expression, and that’s your opinion, but perhaps that poor man just has bitchy resting face!!

Perhaps he like most reasonable people dislike how the Poppy Police have hijacked the event and turned it into a jingoistic rallying cry for war.

As a Scot he’d be more sensitive to the politics of it than maybe you are OP.

He showed up didn’t he? Isn’t that paying his respects?

Or does he have to tick all your boxes, perhaps going against his religion, and grinning like a fool, to be acceptable to you?

My opinion:
He paid his respects- he suited up, he showed up, and the rather judgemental and petty opinion you have of him is just that, an opinion, and could be argued, reflects badly on you on such a day, the main point of which is peace.

I don’t think Boris would be recognisable with combed hair.😄

You should read the whole thread Fleurpepper and in any case nowhere did I say it’s only for Christians.

MissInterpreted

Anniebach

Agree with Allira and 0reo if people are atheists why
attended a Christian service

The service of remembrance is surely for those of all faiths, is it not? What about all those who served who are or were not Christians? Do they not matter? That's hardly a very Christian attitude!

Exactly, those comments were despicable in the extremes. Many people who served were not Christians.

'"The Act of Remembrance is brief and non-religious, making it exceptionally well-suited to personalised commemorations. You may assemble whatever readings, music or other elements you wish to accompany the Act of Remembrance in order to make your own ceremony or event relevant to your particular community."
www.britishlegion.org.uk › ...'

just disgusting and totally lacking in respect.

Good points GrannyO

Haven't seen the clip yet so relying on the 'evidence' presented here, which appears to be contradictory, so I will try to find it and judge it against these previous actions.
Did he place the wreath upside down...Johnson?
Did he helicopter out of the proceedings well before the end...Sunak watched by the World in France?
Did he cancel his appearance in case the rain would ruin his hair...Trump.
That he didn't recite the Christain prayer is NOYB, as it wasn't only Christians who died.

Allira

GrannyO

…to be honest I was more disgusted at Boris Johnson’s hair. No effort made.

Really?

How strange.

Oh for goodness sakes.

paddyann54

Strange thing to be offended at….I am much more offended by the king,his son and his ssister wearing fancy dress uniforms of a rank they NEVER ATTAINED the two men did minimal serviceable and left as junior officers and even that was due to their birth…and Anne well she never served at all yet like her brother and nephew she is adorned/ plastered with medals
What an insult to the people who fought for their country to earn a medal and the dead ….who never came home.They weren’t given the option of fancy dress and a chest full of medals!! Yet you find a young man not singing a problem. I think the problem is the mindset of many on here that Royals are some kind of gods who must be worshipped whatever they do ,including adultery,sex abuse ,and scamming charities.
I,m glad my moral standards are much higher than that!!

Here we go again. Did you serve. The King and William did, so did others of our Royal Family.
They had dignity and reverence.
More than is seen on here by some.

If his haircut is the only thing which disrespectful then that truly is nitpicking.

Flynn should learn a few manners from the redoubtable but respectful Ian Blackford.

GrannyO

…to be honest I was more disgusted at Boris Johnson’s hair. No effort made.

Oh yes, he was never respectful but that's ok because of who he is/was. Not Scottish.

GrannyO

…to be honest I was more disgusted at Boris Johnson’s hair. No effort made.

Really?

How strange.

…to be honest I was more disgusted at Boris Johnson’s hair. No effort made.

I watched the service and was proud to see the SNP represented. Many Scots died and should be remembered with respect. He laid the wreath properly and respectfully. I don’t suppose singing is compulsory, especially the National Anthem as the day is about the dead and not about the Royals.

OldFrill

It's not often. I'm on the side of the SNP but the so called Christian sisterhood on this thread is vile. Christianity does not own Remembrance. Nearly half of Scotland wants independence and the way some are demanding they sing hymns and GSTK it's no wonder. How DARE anyone demand that someone compromise their principles, be hypocritical and sing songs because it confirms to their narrow minded religions view. That's Christianity is it? No wonder congregations are waning and the churches are being converted into housing (actually one near here is being converted into a mosque).
Last year and this year Stephen Flynn has been heavily criticised for standing by his principles. Show done human decency, it's Remembrance not bitchfest.
Some remarks made to me on here are incredibly incredibly hurtful.

I completely agree. Some disgraceful posts.

I can agree or disagree as can you

Anniebach

Agree with Allira and 0reo if people are atheists why
attended a Christian service

No it isn't. What about those of other faiths, or none? Do they not count?

Chocolatelovinggran

I have just attended the event of Remembrance at the local war memorial. One of my grandchildren was involved in the wreath laying.
I am a Christian and joined in with the hymns and the prayers, and, as a Republican, stood quietly as others sang the National Anthem.
I cannot speak for the person you are describing, but I wonder- should I have stayed away from this event. Should my not singing the National Anthem have barred me?

No, of course you should not have stayed away! You stood respectfully silent while others sang the National Anthem - nothing wrong with that.

Maybe by next year people will know it's Stephen Flynn, last year many thought he was Humza Yousef 🤣
He also represents Plaid Cymru at the Cenotaph.
www.gransnet.com/forums/news_and_politics/1329574-Remembrance-service

That would be Steven Flynn of the SNP showing his true colours again waste of a space of a man if ever one existed

Yes indeed. Our son did tours of Iraq and the Balkans as an officer with the Royal Air Force, came home safely when some of his comrades did not. Every time there was a ring on the doorbell or a knock on the door we were sick. It is not essential to sing God Save The King at all to remember and be gratfeful.

I did not see that..Not every Scot is SNP. He does not speak for the majority....I am Scot and my father fought in India and Burma. This politician should have shown respect irrespective of his political views or as you say not attended

MissInterpreted

Oh, and he's Stephen Flynn, by the way - SNP MP for Aberdeen South and SNP Group Leader at Westminster.

Thank you