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helshea Sat 31-Dec-11 14:38:12

Ok .. I'll thrown this in - what makes a Tart? (jam and pastry is not acceptable) wink

Joan Thu 08-Mar-12 01:36:50

Yes, I love Willie Russell, and read that foreword to the play. Rita and Shirley Valentine are such favourites of mine.

We are only doing part of the play, for our winter expo in August. The theme is 'Women in literature and history'. All sorts of other women, from Lady Godiva to Mae West will be featured. (We've got a bloke playing Godiva - in a long frock and a wig: some demanded he wear just a body suit, but I think we'd all get arrested)

Annobel Wed 07-Mar-12 23:28:09

glamma, no need to feel guilty about Willie Russell! My mature (Access to HE) students just loved Educating Rita - had kindred feeling! The foreword he wrote to the play is all about his own education and how he learned as a mature student himself. It was well worth reading and discussing with those Access students. Joan - what a great part to play. She goes from tarty to quite conventional in the film.

glammanana Wed 07-Mar-12 23:08:00

joan envy on you playing Rita, I saw it not long ago in Liverpool so it was full to the brim with humour,Rita,Shirley Valentine and Blood Brothers are my guilty secret in life.

Joan Wed 07-Mar-12 22:44:10

Hey Pompeyguy I'm married to a sort of Pompeyguy, ie an ex sailor. We lived in Pompey, in Southsea and later in a married quarter in Rowner, Gosport, when first married in the late 60s.

These days I could cheerfully chuck him back into the water sometimes though!! Come to think of it, he once DID get washed overboard, off a frigate in a storm in the North Atlantic. In March!. He got double rum rations and two weeks survivors leave afterwards.

As for being a tart - I wasted all those opportunities to be a very naughty girl back then. I was even an au pair girl for a while, but never got the sort of tarty life as depicted in popular culture of the time. Mind you, coming from near Leeds, quite a centre of fashion back then, I was in micro mini skirts before they had reached Pompey, so I guess I was a little bit tarty back then.

Oh well, it's not too late. I'm playing Rita of 'Educating Rita' in a U3A Performance Group's show later this year. I'll make her quite tarty!

pompeyguy Wed 07-Mar-12 20:21:20

Got to have my nightly ration of alcohol early tonight, blood test in the morning, so no booze after 9.30pm, so from now on E&OE.

JessM Wed 07-Mar-12 20:18:49

Oh don't start jack or you will be shouting at us as well as the radio grin. We do not always choose to show off our perfect command of spelling, grammar and punctuation on gransnet because it is informal communication. Also some people might be intimidated if they get pulled up on these things. We have a few timid lurkers who are nervous about posting. Come on we know you are there lurker grans. Come out of the shadows and play.

glammanana Wed 07-Mar-12 20:03:45

green I think that you left your fishnets wrapped around that lamp-post that we ended up wrapped around when we came home one night on the broomstick,it was somewhere just past the M62 or there abouts,I've got a spare pair if you need them ?grin

pompeyguy Wed 07-Mar-12 19:57:34

I meant to say GCE O level English failed, too busy thinking about the washing up, or at least loading the dish washer.

pompeyguy Wed 07-Mar-12 19:38:31

I'm obliged m'lord (GCE O level failed )

jack Wed 07-Mar-12 19:28:56

Hate to be pedantic pompeyguy but there should be an apostrophe after "ladies".

pompeyguy Wed 07-Mar-12 19:26:52

Interesting to see the ladies views.

jack Wed 07-Mar-12 19:21:46

Oh pompeyguy (I assume you are a man?) that is a great compliment to everyone on this site. I think it says something about the very high standards of post-war education.

Not sure why you're on the "tarts" thread though!

pompeyguy Wed 07-Mar-12 19:16:38

PS, I've never been on a site before where the standard of spelling and grammar has been so high, congrats to all.

JessM Wed 07-Mar-12 19:05:38

KP best described as a successful business enterprise! Gotta hand it.

Annobel Wed 07-Mar-12 19:05:23

I think the difference between a tart and a slag is that a tart does it for money whereas a slag is a promiscuous and usually rather unattractive young woman but not necessarily a prostitute.

pompeyguy Wed 07-Mar-12 18:53:49

Top of my list would be Katie Price (Jordan ), she'd have to pay me.

petallus Wed 07-Mar-12 12:26:28

Pompey do tell us what you think makes a tart or a slag. We need the male point of view. Or any other bloke who is having a read of this thread.

petallus Wed 07-Mar-12 12:24:51

Pompeyguy who resurrected this thread, has gone a bit quiet!

Greatnan Wed 07-Mar-12 12:22:31

If a woman marries a man she does not love because he can give her the lifestyle she wants (and vice versa) is it legalised prostitution?

Annobel Wed 07-Mar-12 12:10:31

I recall the part played by Joanna Lumley in Shirley Valentine. Very elegant and posh but she referred to herself as a tart - albeit a very expensive one!

petallus Wed 07-Mar-12 11:41:32

You mean Audrey Hepburn/Grace Kelly sort of thing? Not Mae West? I think if a tart was elegant it would spoil the image a bit.

bagitha Wed 07-Mar-12 11:34:30

Can a tart be elegant? Or, to put it another way, is there such a thing as an elegant tart?

Annika Wed 07-Mar-12 11:32:56

greenmossgiel you have them Ive been searching high and low for them, but come to think of it I thought Carol borrowed them.
My memory is getting so bad.I can't seem to remember a thing, now where are my fishnet stockings, short skirt and and red stiletto heels wink

greenmossgiel Wed 07-Mar-12 11:18:42

I'll get them back to you as soon as I've finished with them *Annika! grin

Annika Wed 07-Mar-12 11:08:00

What about the name Jezebe? associated by the early 20th century with fallen or abandoned women

Frankie Laine recorded "Jezebel" (1951),

Do men have such name I wonder, after all if a man "sleeps" around you can hear a chorus of "get in my son" !
Im getting off my soap box now and Im going out to "strutt my stuff". Now where are my fishnet stockings, short skirt and red stiletto heels wink