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How do you define being a Snob!

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ninnynanny Fri 06-Apr-12 09:17:58

Looking down on people who read a different newspaper to you.

Greatnan Sun 08-Apr-12 09:18:06

Didn't Princess Diana have an expensive private education and achieve one GCSE? The children of both parents with inherited wealth, or those from self-made parents, can exhibit the same degree of stupidity. I don't know if is genetic or if lacking motivation to succeed in their own right leads to idiots like Brian Ferry's son behaving badly. Tara Palmer-Tomkinson is not a great advert for wealth and privilege either.
Centuries of inbreeding have not tended to produce the best brains amongst the aristocracy.

As for gransnetters being posh - as far as I can see the only thing we have in common apart from the majority of us being grandparents is our ownership or access to a computer and the ability to use it.

Butternut Sun 08-Apr-12 09:19:59

smile bagitha

petallus Sun 08-Apr-12 09:24:28

We may well be different in lots of ways but I think what we have in common, for the majority of us anyway, is having had a reasonable education and being in the professions.

Greatnan Sun 08-Apr-12 09:31:53

We did have one thread about what we had done in the past, but we have no way of knowing if the replies were a true cross-section.

petallus Sun 08-Apr-12 09:51:33

I think we pick up this information as we go along in all the threads.

Greatnan Sun 08-Apr-12 09:56:27

I do wonder if there are many members who just read posts and don't feel ready to post replies. It may be that posters are a self-selected group composed mainly of professionals who tend to be more confident in putting their thoughts into 'print'.

petallus Sun 08-Apr-12 09:58:11

A very good point Greatnan

Greatnan Sun 08-Apr-12 10:00:33

I think the title of this thread is probably aimed at me. I should stress that I don't look down on people who read the DM - I look down on the people who publish it.

Anagram Sun 08-Apr-12 11:32:53

I must take issue with your assumption, petallus, that most of the posters on GN are current or former professionals.

I had a excellent education, but chose not to enter 'the professions', and I'm sure I'm not alone. I would have thought the last thing GN needs is to be accused of elitism.

Magrithea Sun 08-Apr-12 11:37:28

I object to being addressed by my first name by people who call out of the blue or who don't know me - I use a diminutive of it anyway. I was brought up to call my elders 'Mrs ...' though I do now call my mum's friends by their first names though it felt strange for ages! Otherwise good family friends were always 'Auntie' and 'Uncle'.

When I was working as a physio, we wouldn't have dreamt of addressing a patient by their first name, probably would've been told off for doing so. Maybe this is why there are so many problems in the care system as staff are too familiar with the elderly who really don't like people being too familiar without invitation!

granbunny Sun 08-Apr-12 12:11:43

that must mean i'm elderly... grin

nelliedeane Sun 08-Apr-12 12:13:23

is there is such a thing as inverted snobbery?I have seen it in several of my ex work colleagues,maybe I am wrong, but isnt that true snobbery? not wanting anything to do with people who they see as a different class and "hoity toity nobs" in other words middle and upperclass,without getting to know them as peopleconfused

petallus Sun 08-Apr-12 12:55:41

Anagram I did say 'most'.

Anyway, you say you had an excellent education so I was half right.

petallus Sun 08-Apr-12 12:56:48

When I was a child my mother once told me that I wouldn't pass for Grammar School because only 'snob's did that. She was right, I didn't.

petallus Sun 08-Apr-12 12:57:35

Oh my God, I've done a greengrocer's comma. Now everybody will think I'm common smile

Anagram Sun 08-Apr-12 13:31:35

Or badly educated! wink

*SOOP* Sun 08-Apr-12 13:39:58

petallus ...or very like the rest of us...grin

Butternut Sun 08-Apr-12 13:45:55

petallus, Anagram and Soop - loving this thread now..... grin

Greatnan Sun 08-Apr-12 14:30:55

I think that, as with all prejudices, it is O.K. as long as you are aware of them. I know that I have been guilty of inverted snobbery in the past because I assumed I was not going to like someone who had been to public school or spoke with a plum in their mouth. Ian Hislop has converted me!
I now accept that people speak they way they were brought up to speak, and it doesn't tell me anything about them as personalities.
I can't say that my Salford accent, now much diminished as I haven't lived there for over 50 years, has held me back in my career. I think it is easy to blame other people's prejudices for your own failings - 'I didn't get the job because I am black, a woman, disabled, not posh enough, too posh.....' No doubt these complaints are often true but sometimes people don't get jobs because they are just not the right candidate for that particular job.

moomin Sun 08-Apr-12 15:02:48

I think I fall into the category of "reader" and not so much "poster", probably because I dip into GN now and then, by which time the discussions are well under way and most of what I think has already been expressed (probably more effectively).

My New Year's resolution was not to criticise people I see out and about whom I don't know (e.g. dress sense, their driving etc etc) but I'm finding it v difficult. I think it's my worst trait - maybe that's classified as being a snob, I think it's just plain unpleasant.

Must try harder!

Greatnan Sun 08-Apr-12 15:26:45

We can't always control what we think - as long as we don't act on it.
Having had a daughter who became obese during an abusive marriage, I get rather annoyed when people make assumptions that all fat people are just lazy and greedy - if only it were that simple.

bagitha Sun 08-Apr-12 15:28:24

I've just discovered, this morning, that I'm a coffee snob! Not only do I only drink proper coffee, but DH recently bought some Blue Mountain coffee. It's gorgeous!

kittylester Sun 08-Apr-12 15:29:46

My definition of a snob is my mother who was, I am absolutely certain, the inspiration for Hyacinth Bouquet! I found it so embarrassing when I was young that I was determined to be like my father who treated everyone just the same. I have come to realise that, certainly in my mother, it is really an inferiority thing and she is often utterly embarrassed by things I say and do in case people judge her! grin

Employing a cleaner doesn't make me a snob, it makes me someone who hates housework and has little time but enough money to be able to employ someone who actually enjoys cleaning. My cleaner calls me by my first name as I do her. We also text or phone each other to make sure neither of us misses out on gossip vital village information! Our gardener (3 times a year) is a vital source of answers to crossword clues regarding plant names etc as are we for her regarding scientific and historical matters.

But, aren't we all guilty of being snobbish about aspects of life that tick our boxes?

jeni Sun 08-Apr-12 15:32:28

I prefer propper coffee but being lazy have carte noir instant at home. I bought some blue mountain and didn't think much of it. I prefer the Italian blends!

bagitha Sun 08-Apr-12 15:35:37

Find Costa too bitter. We usually drink Colombian.

Don't I sound like a snob? grin LMAO!