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Living alone - live webchat with Virginia Ironside, Thursday 12 July, 1-2pm

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GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 03-Jul-12 15:41:18

We've had lots of discussion on the forums about the pros and cons of living alone. The author and journalist Virginia Ironside will be joining us on 12 July to talk answer questions on loneliness and choosing to be alone, her career as an agony aunt and what getting older has taught her.

Virginia will be appearing at this year's Edinburgh festival in her show Growing Old Disgracefully, which has been adapted from her book The Virginia Monologues - Why Growing Old Is Great.

VirginiaIronside Thu 12-Jul-12 13:19:22

chocolateaddict

Hope it's ok to go slightly off topic - but I would love to know more about what it's like to be an agony aunt. Did you have to get special qualifications? Do people's problems ever stay with you? And have you ever given an answer you wish you hadn't?

I'd always been a journalist since the age of 20 and having had a rather troubled childhood with an alcoholic mother I found caring for people very satisfying. When I heard there was a vacancy for an agony aunt at Woman magazine in the early seventies I jumped at the chance and I've been doing it ever since. No, I've never given an answer I've regretted, and yes, problems about child abuse always stay with me. When I say abuse I don't mean just sexual abuse - I mean the far more common neglect, physical violence etc.

spitfire Thu 12-Jul-12 13:18:22

You wrote about your colostomy bag (rather bravely, I thought). Do you still have it? And are there any subjects off-limits for you?

VirginiaIronside Thu 12-Jul-12 13:16:08

curlynan

My main worry about living on my own is what happens in an emergency. Can you suggest some steps to put in place in case? I have friends who live in sheltered accommodation and they have alarms to press - but in my own home I can't see any alternative bar making it to the phone. And if I was seriously ill or hurt that wouldn't necessarily be possible or practical

You can, of course, buy personal alarms that you wear round your neck all the time and if you're worried you might fall ill and be unable to make it to the phone, I would really recommend one of those. But one thing that's extremely important when you're old is to make friends with your neighbours - and I mean your immediate neighbours. Ask them over at Christmas for drinks, and be sure to get to know their names. It is much easier, when you're alone and have more time on your hands, to initiate these contacts particularly with busy working neighbours, rather than expect them to start the friendship. It's amazing how kind - and useful - neighbours can be in medical emergencies.

Frenchface Thu 12-Jul-12 13:13:24

A couple of years ago you said you would kill a sick child. Some people took this to mean you were in favour of euthanasia for disability. Is this what you meant? And if not, how do you judge the nature of someone else's suffering?

VirginiaIronside Thu 12-Jul-12 13:12:33

granIT

I believe you had a facelift a few years ago. What made you decide to do that? As someone who now celebrates getting older, do you still feel it was a good idea?

I realised that having been so depressed when I was young, I was looking terribly gloomy. Since I was feeling so much happier, I wanted my face to reflect that - hence the facelift. I have to say it's been one of the best things I've ever done. Because I look happier, people feel happier when they meet me, and so I respond in a more smiley way and so on.

VirginiaIronside Thu 12-Jul-12 13:09:56

Maniac

Lived alone for 30 yrs.Most of the time happy with that.-have good friends and neighbours.- lots of activities -changing as l become less mobile.
Virginia -love your books -bought 'No!I Don't Want to Join a Book Club' on publication .-Hilarious.
I would like to ask what you suggest for holidays and weekends which can be a bit lonely.

They can be a bit hard, I agree. I have two strategies. One is to say to myself that I NEVER go out on Saturday nights. That way when I don't go out, I don't feel alone or neglected. And the other is, of course, to make endless plans. What so few people realise is that living alone is really like a full-time career and it requires a huge amount of work. Friendships need to be watered, you have to ask people round if you expect to be asked over, and you have to arrange jaunts, instigate phone calls and so on. It's much more relaxing not being alone, in my view, and living alone can be exhausting, even if fun.

Clarrie Thu 12-Jul-12 13:09:52

If you are lonely, how do you get over it? What would you recommend to someone (like me) who is shy and finds it difficult to make the first move?

VirginiaIronside Thu 12-Jul-12 13:06:21

Greatnan

I would like to ask Virginia why it is so hard for people to accept that some of us actually like living alone. I know it is not for everybody, but it is so annoying when people insist that I must be lonely as if it couldn't possibly be a deliberate choice.

To be honest I don't think you should get annoyed because it's very kind of them to worry about you, even if you're not worried about yourself. So I would just smile graciously and say: "How kind of you to be so sympathetic! But I'm one of the lucky people who actually like being alone." And remember, too, how lucky you are. Because lots of people hate being alone.

curlynan Thu 12-Jul-12 13:05:45

My main worry about living on my own is what happens in an emergency. Can you suggest some steps to put in place in case? I have friends who live in sheltered accommodation and they have alarms to press - but in my own home I can't see any alternative bar making it to the phone. And if I was seriously ill or hurt that wouldn't necessarily be possible or practical

granIT Thu 12-Jul-12 13:05:41

I believe you had a facelift a few years ago. What made you decide to do that? As someone who now celebrates getting older, do you still feel it was a good idea?

VirginiaIronside Thu 12-Jul-12 13:03:57

sixtiesgirl

As having been an 'almost' only child, yes, I do like my own company and the peace to indulge my hobies, so that part of growing older doesn't bother me. However, should we not also touch on the other subject of growing older and that is 'our appearance' and 'health'. Do you, Virginia, feel a grieving for 'the way we used to look' and the stamina and tiptop health of youth? I do.

No, I don't! My experience is that so many older people let themselves go that with only a very little effort it's extremely easy to look a lot more glam than quite a few contemporaries. As for health, having suffered depression all through my youth, which is worse than anything, a bit of arthritis now doesn't bother me at all - it's a welcome relief in fact! Anything is better than being depressed.

upwardsandonwards Thu 12-Jul-12 13:03:12

I see that your show (or perhaps it was your book?) is about the twenty best things about getting older. What would you say are the top three?

Marcia Thu 12-Jul-12 13:02:20

I hope I'm not too late to join in? Ten years on I am still struggling with my divorce. It's not so much the practicalities of living alone as the fact my ex has remarried and I can't help feel bitter that he has someone to share the emotional stuff (a few things going on with our kids) with while I don't. Friends just aren't the same. Any ideas?

GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 12-Jul-12 13:00:23

We're delighted that Virginia's here and she's supplied with a cup of tea and some sushi smile so we're ready to go....

Hankipanki Thu 12-Jul-12 12:49:20

Hello Virginia

I will not be around for the live webchat so I would like to pose a question now.

I feel that loneliness is not only a problem for some people who live alone but many of us in a relationship can sometimes feel very lonely too. It can happpen for many reasons both physical or mental health problems. I sometimes feel more lonely when my partner is there than when I am alone. It feels like being shut out and can sometimes last for several days. Apart from leaving the relationship have you any tips on how to cope with the lonely times.

praxis Thu 12-Jul-12 12:27:25

Any tips on getting through those times when you just feel really low and wish there was someone else around? Presumably you feel like that sometimes, even if you like living alone on the whole?

Grannyruth Thu 12-Jul-12 12:22:55

Do you think there is a secret to living alone happily/successfully? Especially if you're new to it? People often say it's fine when you're out with friends, but what's hard is having someone to do nothing with.

Silverbirch Wed 11-Jul-12 20:09:09

I live alone now and I have got fairly used to my own company and most of the time I don't feel lonely.I appreciate time to myself. I am often grateful for the quiet as I have chronic fatigue and sometimes need to rest. I like to paint and garden and listen to music and see my family and friends and go for walks, and this all nourishes me. It does become more difficult though when I dont have a choice and simply have to be very quiet,then I can start to feel isolated because I can then find people tiring. So I think its probably easier to cope with living alone if one is fit and healthy, and can create a fuller life outside as well as inside the homex

jeni Wed 11-Jul-12 15:48:14

mamie I would agree with diver birch.

Silverbirch Wed 11-Jul-12 15:35:11

One of the hardest things for me when my husband died, as well as the pain of loss, was being challenged by some practical things, that I had left to him, and managing the finances so Mamie I would suggest that you share skills as much as possible now, so there are not areas where you might in the future be particularly vulnerablex

effblinder Wed 11-Jul-12 14:43:39

About being an agony aunt: what do you think about sites like Gransnet, where we help each other through our problems, with lots of different voices and experiences giving a wide variety of approaches to a problem.

Do you think there are merits to agony aunt approach over this or vice versa at all?

chocolateaddict Wed 11-Jul-12 14:00:30

Hope it's ok to go slightly off topic - but I would love to know more about what it's like to be an agony aunt. Did you have to get special qualifications? Do people's problems ever stay with you? And have you ever given an answer you wish you hadn't?

sophiesgranny Wed 11-Jul-12 13:56:24

I live alone. Very happily so. My problem is trying to get my (lovely) children to understand I'm not just saying that. Any ideas? Thanks

Catherinep Wed 11-Jul-12 13:55:06

I'm ok on my own most of the time - but I hate bank holidays. I'd love a coping strategy.

merlotgran Tue 10-Jul-12 18:30:15

I've always thought that Saturday is the day that centres on the family and/or the man of the house. Women tend to go with the flow in terms of hobbies, activities and getting the shopping done. Sunday, however, centres around the woman. Whether cooking for just two or a family or going out with OH, it's the day I would find hardest to cope with if I found myself alone. I understand how Barrow feels.