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What I am learning about wasp stings

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Bags Sun 02-Sept-12 11:52:30

Through experience, I hasten to add, not academic research.

My finger is pretty much back to normal size, but still a little turgid and a little bit painful. It is also hot. Now here's what I've discovered: it does not want to be cooled. It hates water moving over it, cold or hot, or even something cold held against it, but it doesn't mind just being wet. I managed to have a shower this morning by wrapping the whole finger in elastoplast. It got wet of course, but the moving water was not in direct contact with the affected skin.

Been thinking how different this is from a superficial scald or burn (i.e. not right through the skin), which is the type of injury that loves to be cooled in water but hates to have air moving over it.

Just sayin', in case this info could be useful to someone else. It is the angry wasp time of year, after all.

Bags Sat 08-Sept-12 20:10:23

Poor thing. Sounds as if she's had (is having!) a hell of a time! But I suppose the doc is justified in not assuming the stings will get infected. They don't always. I've had a couple before which haven't, plus goodness knows how many mosquito bites that didn't (didn't give me malaria either), and innumerable midge and cleg bites. You can't prescribe anti-biotics just in case something gets infected, especially nowadays when they are less effective because we've used them too much in the past.

I'm very sorry your friend has had such a bad time. I know how sore an infected wasp sting can be sad

Ella46 Sat 08-Sept-12 19:25:09

The thing is, she has reacted like this before, but the gp wouldn't listen. She has had to go back to hospital again today and they have changed the anti histamine and given her more antibiotics. Doc said she is allergic and infected!

She never does things by halves!!
Apparently, every time you get stung, the reaction can be worse. She does look a mess.

Anyway, glad your finger is ok now Bags

Bags Sat 08-Sept-12 15:43:00

Sorry about your friend, ella, but anti-histamine is the standard treatment until infection actually occurs. If your friend is very allergic to wasp stings, shouldn't she carry an epipen? Allergic reactions are not the same as infections and anti-biotics will not deal with overproduction of histamine.

My wasp sting got infected (finger now back to normal only a week later) but the nurse I saw was correct not to give me an anti-biotic straight away. My immune system dealt with the infection. This is better than using an anti-biotic.

Of course, if your friend's immune system could not deal with the infection she had, anti-biotics would presumably help, but from what you have said, the doctor did nothing wrong at the initial appointment.

Ella46 Sat 08-Sept-12 15:25:43

This thread didn't go active after I posted!!

Ella46 Sat 08-Sept-12 15:17:56

Last week my friend was stung by two wasps simultaneously,on her face and boob. She went immediately to the GP as she is allergic to them, and asked for antibiotics, which the young newly qualified doc refused,giving her anti histamine.

Cutting a long story short, another visit as she had swelling resulted in antbiotics. That night she had to go to A&E and was kept in overnight and put on an IV drip.
Six days later she is still not well and is still taking antibiotics.
Why don't they teach new doctors to listen to their patients?

Anyway... just wanted to thank tattynan for the info about Aspivenin Kit, my friend is going to get one!

Anagram Mon 03-Sept-12 15:09:57

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jeni Mon 03-Sept-12 13:18:43

We all worry about you young bags. We know you can't really look after yourself!

Bags Mon 03-Sept-12 12:50:14

Been. Told to apply 1% cortisone cream and come back if no improvement in 24 hours – exactly what I expected. Next time I'll wait 72 hours however much grannynagging there is grin. But it's sweet of yous to express concern nevertheless smile.

Joan Mon 03-Sept-12 12:34:05

I was 9 months pregnant and wearing a big summer dress. As I sat down my dress sort of billowed and a hornet flew up it and stung me on the bum. It didn't half hurt. Ouch.

The next day I went into labour. That hurt a bit more.

Ella46 Mon 03-Sept-12 10:03:24

Should we ask for a 'nagging' emoticon do you think?

moomin Mon 03-Sept-12 09:57:47

Some years ago I was stung on my leg by some unidentified insect on our way home from France (I felt something on the back of my calf, brushed at it and was stung so didn't see the culprit). After a couple of days my leg swelled up and "vibrated" with each step! Went to see my then GP who took one look, told me it was an allergic reaction (oh, really???) and sent me away without treatment!

I've been stung a few times since by wasps and tend to swell up for a few days, but nothing like that experience thank goodness. I react quite strongly to mozzie bites too.

My SiL was stung/bitten? by a horsefly years ago and ended up in hospital with a severe reaction and now carries an Epipen. Any flying/biting creatures make a bee-line for him!

jeni Mon 03-Sept-12 09:40:51

Quite!

whenim64 Mon 03-Sept-12 09:24:40

We will be when we know you've kept the appointment Bags! grin

absentgrana Mon 03-Sept-12 09:10:00

Yep. smile

Bags Mon 03-Sept-12 09:09:00

Rang surgery. Got appointment with nurse later today, who can refer me to doc if necessary. You lot happy now? smile

jeni Mon 03-Sept-12 08:55:05

Do you think she'll listen?

absentgrana Mon 03-Sept-12 08:54:01

You tell her jeni.

jeni Mon 03-Sept-12 08:52:44

Go to doctor!

annodomini Mon 03-Sept-12 08:49:34

I think I'd have it looked at, if I were you, Bags, especially if the swelling is spreading. You might have to carry an epipen as reactions tend to be worse on subsequent occasions, or so I have been told. DS1 was stung by a wasp that casually breezed into the office when he was on duty one evening and stung him without provocation. He swelled up so fast that he was taken into hospital and put on a drip!

absentgrana Mon 03-Sept-12 08:46:16

As one who suffers from quite violent reactions to wasp stings and sand fly bites, I would recommend seeking professional advice – a pharmacist or GP – especially as the swelling is spreading rather than reducing.

Bags Mon 03-Sept-12 08:40:16

It swelled up again last night and the blood vessels throbbed. This morning there's a blistery rash, possible an allergic reaction to the elastoplast I used during my shower yesterday morning. It's rather red and hot, uncomfortable (more than yesterday) but not painful. Swelling also creeping into hand just above the finger. It's definitely a nuisance having strong allergic reactions. I was quite worried when I got up but now not sure whether it needs to be looked at. I don't feel ill, just irritated that a wasp sting can have so much effect!

absentgrana Mon 03-Sept-12 08:34:07

Bags How's the finger today? Hope it's less painful.

Bags Sun 02-Sept-12 21:23:24

I'm going to get one, tattynan smile. Since I have to carry around a tub of Tiger Balm everywhere, I might as well carry an insect bite poison vacuum. The Tiger Balm does the same thing in effect, by the way, as it makes the bites 'bleed' the poison out. I didn't use it on the wasp bite though, the site of which actually wasn't visible for very long anyway.

Thanks again for the info.

tattynan Sun 02-Sept-12 21:00:48

You can use the aspevenin on midge bits. I get bitten every year by gnats and midges [the ones that look like a bit of soot give me the worse bites.] Every time you itch you can use the aspivenin to suck the venom out. There are 4 different size heads you can use depending on the size of the bite.

baublesbanglesandb Sun 02-Sept-12 20:13:22

I was just saying to OH on our walk through woodland that every flying insect seems to be out to get me today. This afternoon it was the wasps and my second sting of the week, then the midges this evening - horrid creatures. Fortunately the stings weren't too bad although my finger has just stopped itching from the first one a few days ago.

Hope yours gets better soon Bags [Sympathy]