ONE BILLION RISING. Will you give your support to women across the planet on 14 February?

Hear Hear when I think he is either a wind-up merchant or a dinosaur, in other words a dying breed I hope. To be honest I think that we should just ignore any of his comments on this thread. Despite many Gransnetters attempting to educate him he persists in re-telling us his silly little story of the girl at the train station. He hasn't backed up his comments with any real facts just old fashioned theories and opinions. Frank you weren't the man at the train station were you? The incident does seem to rankle.

I think you could be right there, Elegran. Have picture in my mind of HUNTERF sitting at his computer, sniggering like Mutley from the 80's children's cartoon 'Wacky Races' !

HunterF's contributions to the thread will be valuable then, as evidence of the attitude of a representative man, his bias blindingly obvious to everyone but himself.

I still wonder whether he is pulling our lycra-clad legs and being deliberately obtuse.

absent well said.

Well said absent.

Well we know that this campaign isn't pointless. We are also realistic enough to know that attitudes and actions will not change overnight, however many of us there are and however vociferous we are. We know that change comes gradually until things reach a tipping point. Let us try to bring that tipping point a little closer so that one day every man in the world would be ashamed to be dismissive about rape and other violence towards women.

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I am more than happy for a line to be drawn

Amen to that when.

And for goodness' sake - I am fed up hearing about 'ladies'. Makes us sound like public conveniences.

Hear hear, when!

What a shame this thread has been diverted by Frank's tedious comments. He hasn't responded to any of the pertinent questions asked of him, nor reacted to speculation that he might be trying to wind us up or cause mischief, yet Gransnetters have gone to an awful lot of trouble to explain why the issues are important. I note from when he first joined that his request for views were met with support and advice, at a time when he was quite upset about how neighbours were treating him.

You haven't exactly kept to the spirit of Gransnet, have you Frank? All you have done is grab attention away from the issue of the One Billion Rising event on February 14th.

I feel that enough is enough. You have limited understanding, and have exploited the unlimited generosity of Gransnetters who wanted to help you understand that this campign is not 'pointless.' On the contrary, all you've done is reinforce to us what an uphill battle women have been facing, when dealing with such indifference to the harm they have experienced at the hands of abusive men.

Hi gracesmum

If you were refering to the woman getting injured I would have not been pleased if it had been my wife or daughter.

In view of the police enquiries going in his favour we would have had to accept the situation.

I would have not aproached this man and risked further problems.

The lady just has to be thankfull it was just a few scratches.

Also there are plenty of police in the area. Why did she not report him before any damage happened and it could have been sorted earlier?.

I do not know if my relative will be good to 109.

As far as I am aware the maximum anybody has lived in our family is 102. Oddly enough that was a man.

A woman lived to 101.

Frank

Why on earth should that "console" Faye or anyone?
And why won't you answer my question??
PS there will be loads of people with that surname, but glad your rellie is good to 109!!

Hi Faye

You may want to console yourself in the fact that the Hunter name will not exist in 50 years time as there is only one younger than me and he is 59 and only has daughters.
Probably God only let us have daughters and granddaughters as he wanted the future family to be able to do aerobics without any problems.

Frank

You wound me up on the leisure centre thread Frank, well done. I think you secretly wish you were a woman and had all the privileges women have had over the centuries.

Answer the question, HunterF - you may be a pussy cat underneath, but answer the question!

This man did not threaten violence towards this lady. She thought he might have attacked her, ran and fell.
It was her own fault.

Frank

HUNTERF, I do believe you are a bit of a wind-up merchant. Very glad I haven't joined in with this discussion, actually.

I have to hand it to you HunterF - this is just a wind-up isn't it?
However we also take violence against women seriously whether threatened, implied or overt. If this had been your late wife or one of your daughters, how would you have reacted?
I bet you are a real softie underneath this Soames Forsyte exterior!

Hi gracesmum

Are you saying this man should have got a later train so he would not have to follow this woman every day.
He might have been wanting to get to some activity.
Maybe an aerobics class.

Frank

This sounds like one of those convoluted anecdotes which prove nothing about nobody nowhere (apologies pedants, but I have HAD ENOUGH of the latent misogeny I am reading)
I think everybody has said about all there is to be said, but the attitude that a woman "has it coming to her" or that if someone is following her too closely for comfort somehow it is her fault, this just belongs in the 19th century or earlier. It is like bullying, too often the victim is rrequired to change their way of life or pattern of behaviour, not the bully.
"If he had been stalking I presume he would have been in jail" - just doesn't follow.
Just as we observe cashpoint etiquette - i.e. we stand back from anyone using an ATM, there are similar considerations in other aspects of our everyday life.
But I give up - HunterF you come across as someone with the ossified attitudes of a nonagenarian with the outlook of Soames Forsyte. I find this hard to credit on an enlightened site like GN.

Frank is having a laugh at the expense of us women, if you ask me. I'm just SO PLEASED that the men in my family are so different. Includes small not-yet-men who leap on any sign of unfair discrimination.

Hi Nono

One of the people I worked with knew the man and I had met him while I worked in London. The person I worked with travelled on the same train.
I can only presume the man was telling the truth as he never went missing for any period of time.
If he had been stalking I presume he would have been in jail.
In no way was this man responsible for the woman tripping up and injuring herself.
I supose he should have been compensated by the woman for his wasted time.

Frank

Hi Franky 27/1 , 19.34

HOW do you know all this ? Have you read it in your local newspaper ???

That is good, Frank that he has been cleared of any wrongdoing. BUT there are a lot of other people around who are not so innocent. The lady wondered whether the man who was following her was one of the wrong 'uns.

Hi absent

This man was interviewed by the police and they checked the time he finished work and several people knew he got the same train every night.
He had 13 minutes to walk nearly half a mile so he had to take the shortest route.
The police just said there was no evidence of stalking and he had not committed any offence.

Frank