Good news. The ladies only classes have stopped at my leisure centre.

Oh, I'm thinking, phoenix
The thing is, Frank says he lives in Birmingham which has a high percentage of Asians/Muslims and whenever I am there I see a lot of women in traditional dress not just the older ones. Maybe a leafy Home counties suburb might be different or a wee place like my old home town in the Borders. There must be a lot of Asian origin/Muslim council tax payers in and around Birmingham......
However, I am thinking:
terrier............................................................rabbit hole.....*LEAVE IT*!

Not sure about the lycra jO7 just think of male ballet dancers.....

I think perhaps a pair of shorts is acceptable, providing they are wearing proper close fitting underpants under them. I do agree that a combination of loose boxer shorts type underwear beneath shorts is asking for trouble!

Younger people seem ok with it. Perhaps older people should be too. Elderly gents would have wear respectable lycra though. That keeps it all in place.

Elegran Well let us hope that Ariadne isn't following this thread, then.

But, jings, mixed classes are not suitable (or acceptable) to everyone I think he lives where there are not a lot of people to whom it is not right to juggle your bum and/or tum around in mixed company.

It is like Procrustes, who had a bed which fitted everyone perfectly - so long as their feet were chopped off, or their arms and legs stretched to fit.

Who cares.
If I could get gym membership at £23.50 or even £31.00 I'd exercise alongside
Eric Pickles!

#pipeandsmokeit

Was going to leve this thread alone but as it has been revived will post my recent thoughts on the matter. (#waitforit)

I have looked online at most gyms in my area, and several in other parts of the UK, and mixed sex classes seem to be acceptable, and in fact, the norm.

I think Frank has been right all along.

I can't see the similarity myself

Groan agreed.

Frank you sound like a relic, relichunter and HUNTERF could you be the same person using two profiles on 11th Nov. at 18:06:51 Or is it just a coincidence that you both sound so very similar?

and that granjura!

gracesmum, I was wondering that!

Where is that 'groan' button on GN?

Hi gracemum

I am happy to pay council tax for facilities which everybody can use, I do not use the library for example but I am happy to pay towards that and I do not use every park in Birmingham but I could if I want.
I am only saying I should only pay for facilities I am allowed to use.

Frank

There's none so deaf as them that don't want to hear....

And while we're at it can we not use any of my council taxes for any of the things I don't want to do?

Struuuf Frank - yes we know what you mean - many of us just do not agree and ask for more tolerance. Over and out.

Hi absent

I am not saying that women are a minority group. It is people who are not content with attending mixed classes who are a minority group.
All I am saying is if ladies only classes are to run do not use any of my council tax or membership fee towards their running costs.

Frank

Frank I think you have said all there is to be said for your point of view, but please allow those of us who may have an opinion on the bigger picture of inclusivity and entitlement to express our own views.

HUNTERF When did women become a minority group?

Hi gracesmum

As I have said before I can not be expected to subserdise minority groups.
If the council wants to provide classes for women only they should charge the ones who are using these classes an extra fee.
I am paying £23.50 per month as I am over 60 and I understand the normal rate is £31.00
If they provide 1 women only class then those attending it should pay the full running costs as I don't think it is fair to charge the women extra who are happy in mixed classes.
If for example 5 women want a female only class and it costs £50 a week to run the council could say we will run the class but we will need a years class fees up front so they would have to pay £520 upfront.
It should also make sure that it does not reduce the availability of classes for men so as the centre is now fully utilised Monday to Thursday between 5.30 and 9.30 in the evening and from 5.30 till 7.30 on a Friday the ladies only classes would have to take place outside these hours.

Frank

Should have added particularly populated by sweaty men in lycra shorts !!

I'm allergic to gyms

I am allergic to bananas