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Bags Sun 03-Feb-13 12:29:46

Bumped into Mr Bags by the milk jug, so to speak (Hi, Honey). He had a mug full of black coffee in his hand, I had an empty mug in mine. I warm my coffee milk in the microwave and then add the coffee. He pours the coffee in first and then adds cold milk.

You?

FlicketyB Mon 04-Feb-13 16:28:22

Non-lactivator

Bags Mon 04-Feb-13 14:26:03

ga, people who think breast-feeding another woman's baby is unnatural don't know much history, obviously, or they would have heard of wet nurses. You'd think everyone nowadays would have heard of other mammals suckling babies that weren't their own too. Not to mention Romulus and Remus and the wolf mother.

harrigran Mon 04-Feb-13 13:12:31

I think it is fairly common Gagagran I would retch at the smell of coffee from the very earliest weeks of pregnancy, I wonder if it is natures way of preventing us ingesting what is not good for baby ? I went off apples with each pregnancy, even the smell was vomit inducing.

annodomini Mon 04-Feb-13 09:16:44

I had the same reaction to alcohol - it's your body telling you to lay off what's not good for you.

Gagagran Mon 04-Feb-13 09:10:39

The first signs of pregnancy for me were a strong reaction against coffee. Couldn't stand the smell even. Often wonder if that is a common sign?

grannyactivist Mon 04-Feb-13 08:51:03

Bags, I too had plenty of milk; I looked after my friend's baby when she had occasional days doing supply teaching - and breast fed him too. Some people (actually I think most if I'm honest) were deeply horrified by this and their expressed view was that it was 'unnatural'! Honestly, sometimes I think I inhabit a parallel universe to most people. I'm not easily angered, but I do remember feeling so then. confused

Bags Mon 04-Feb-13 05:51:15

When I stopped breast-feeding DD2 (after being pregnant and breast-feeding and then pregnant and breast-feeding again non-stop for three and a half years or whatever it was), I didn't "dry up" completely for at least eighteen months. It was nice to feel that if someone had presented me with a motherless newborn, I could have fed it smile

anno, I remember reading that end scene in The Grapes of Wrath when I was a teenager. I loved it and found it very moving. I think it's one of those things that had a profound influence on my adult thinking. And I remembered it during those eighteen months above.

Nelliemoser Sun 03-Feb-13 23:16:09

Bugger! I missed a whole line of of my previous post! Too late now, Too tired now. night night

annodomini Sun 03-Feb-13 21:26:30

The last chapter of The Grapes of Wrath, sees Rose of Sharon, the Joad daughter, who still has breast milk although her baby has died, giving her breast to a starving man. When the novel was written, readers were shocked. This was, of course, Steinbeck's intention.

feetlebaum Sun 03-Feb-13 20:31:35

There seems to be a kind of superstitious fear of using human milk - I can't think why; there's no magic involved.

nanaej Sun 03-Feb-13 18:27:27

Like a good fresh coffee..warm milk but also gives me dreadful indigestion and palpitations so now stay away from coffee..just have to do with the aroma!

Drink strong well brewed tea with milk (in first if teapot tea, 2nd if tea bag in the mug tea!) no sugar

Love fresh mint tea, Moroccan /Turkish tea, lemon or orange tea with ginger

Not fond of Earl Grey though.

Nelliemoser Sun 03-Feb-13 18:07:38

Having "failed" at natural childbirth. (wrong shaped pelvis) I had two C sections.
Being able to breast feed sucessfully, despite my mothers ominous warnings, did make me feel better.
to warm up. Just plug in and go. I cannot help feeling jealous watching DD with DGS.

Nelliemoser Sun 03-Feb-13 17:57:41

I posted elsewhwere that last week I was giving DGS a bottle of his mums expressed milk.
I warmed it up in a jug and squeezed a few drops on the back of my hand to test the temperature a couple of times and then licked the drops off my hand.

It didn't seem to taste much different to any other. At the time I didn't even think about it. But I wasn't particularly worried when I realised DD and I just laughed.

grannyA Thats sad about having to ask. What a *** the man must be.

jeni Sun 03-Feb-13 17:17:35

I'm with you. My dd (still breast feeding at 19/12) would have clocked him one!angry

Bags Sun 03-Feb-13 17:08:16

ga, gosh! I hope she ignored him, or left him angry

Bags Sun 03-Feb-13 17:04:15

ana, yes, of course. Why not?

grannyactivist Sun 03-Feb-13 17:00:00

Irony - I'd have liked him to see more than that! His wife had to beg and plead to be 'allowed' to breast feed in the first place and he imposed conditions on where and when she could do so.

annodomini Sun 03-Feb-13 16:55:32

I hope you both made him see the irony in that!

grannyactivist Sun 03-Feb-13 16:45:18

That reminds me of another incident: I was once at a friend's house when we both had young babies. Her husband unexpectedly came home from work early. He walked in with the Sun newspaper under his arm; looked askance at us both breastfeeding and blurted out that we were 'disgusting'. confused

jeni Sun 03-Feb-13 16:36:49

grin

grannyactivist Sun 03-Feb-13 16:30:11

Funny story, but quite long winded, bear with me. I take skinny milk, husband has semi. So, someone comes for tea and is asked, 'which milk do you prefer?' If 'semi' the order would go to the tea maker as two teas with dad's milk. With me so far? One of our many visitors when I was breast feeding my youngest was such a regular that we knew he took semi in his tea. Just after I returned to work this chap was asking how I managed with feeding and I explained that I was expressing enough milk for dad to offer feeds during the day. In walks husband with tray of tea; visitor sips and says tea tastes odd. Husband says, 'sorry had to use mum's milk, no semi left'. He was of course referring to using skinny milk, but our poor guest (6'3" policeman) nearly choked to death thinking he was drinking my breast milk. (Don't know what the problem would have been anyway, it is only milk after all!) grin

Ana Sun 03-Feb-13 16:14:23

Did you tell them, Bags?

Butty Sun 03-Feb-13 16:13:02

Non-lactivator.

Black coffee, always. Not instant.

Black tea - very weak - with slice of lemon.

Lemongrass bags/leaves.

Bags Sun 03-Feb-13 15:40:45

I used to express breast milk for DD3 to have when I was teaching in the evenings. Any she didn't drink got used up in next day's dinner for the rest of us. No WAY was I going to all that rrouble only to have it wasted.

But I digress.

#asyouwere

annodomini Sun 03-Feb-13 15:36:10

Camomile tea?Dish water! But I do drink redbush because some real tea has too much caffeine for me.