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HUNTERF Mon 25-Mar-13 12:55:30

style.uk.msn.com/socialvoices/women-should-be-with-their-families-not-in-jail

Surely the answer is to increase jail terms to stop crimes happening.
People may be deterred from breaking in to a house if they knew they would go to jail for 20 years if caught.

Frank

Anne58 Mon 25-Mar-13 13:07:17

And how would 20 years in jail for housebreaking be paid for Frank ?

Lilygran Mon 25-Mar-13 13:10:46

I wonder how many female housebreakers there are?

absent Mon 25-Mar-13 13:10:58

HUNTERF Have you read the article for which you give the link? Your comment certainly suggests otherwise.

whenim64 Mon 25-Mar-13 13:32:02

It depends - most non-violent offences can be dealt with by other means, which can also deprive the woman of her liberty for some of the time, such as combined supervision and community payback orders. Increased jail terms don't deter offending - employment and a legitimate source of income is more effective, but when the woman is mentally ill, substance addicted or personality disordered, neither jail nor community punishments are of any help without attending to the underlying problems.

The British Criminal Justice System has evolved to be as fair as possible (we can all think of examples where it doesn't). 20 years for house-breaking, which is now always called burglary, is not compatible with other sentences for more serious offences against the person. Few women commit burglaries.

The article does illustrate why women are better punished in a way that doesn't separate them from their children - very few children benefit from being separated from their mothers, except for the ones we know would be so much safer being looked after elsewhere because children are their victims.

absent Mon 25-Mar-13 13:39:16

when I'm glad you could be bothered to spell it out. I started and gave up. Nevertheless, I suspect you're simply banging your head against a brick wall.

whenim64 Mon 25-Mar-13 13:41:36

Anyone got a bandage?? grin

HUNTERF Mon 25-Mar-13 13:50:34

I am of the belief if jail terms were increased less crimes will be committed so there will be less people in jail especially if the jails were extremely uncomfortable for example no beds or heating.

Frank

gillybob Mon 25-Mar-13 13:56:37

How could you impose a 20 year sentence on a burglar and less on someone committing murder Frank? How can you compare the taking of a possession with the taking of a life?

glammanana Mon 25-Mar-13 13:57:57

when I've got some Disney plaster's will they do grin

Ana Mon 25-Mar-13 14:00:54

I'm sure Frank would want 100 years at least for murder, gillybob.

HUNTERF Mon 25-Mar-13 14:00:58

Murderers should get 100 years in jail with hard labour.

Frank

Anne58 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:01:18

Oh for heavens sake!

Ana Mon 25-Mar-13 14:01:33

Ooh, I must be psychic! grin

gillybob Mon 25-Mar-13 14:09:50

You definitely are Ana smile

Lilygran Mon 25-Mar-13 14:23:37

He does it on purpose to get us all going!

Anne58 Mon 25-Mar-13 14:33:24

Not playing any more.

gillybob Mon 25-Mar-13 14:37:37

Oh come on phoenix please stay and play the game. grin

Nonu Mon 25-Mar-13 14:48:28

Think he has to do a little better than his opening post to pique our interest , well mine anyway .

hmmm

sunseeker Mon 25-Mar-13 15:09:39

Oh please, Frank is obviously trying to wind everyone up - again. Take everything he posts with a large pinch of salt!

whenim64 Mon 25-Mar-13 15:32:43

Pass me THREE Disney plasters, glamma! Those brick walls are hard! grin

glammanana Mon 25-Mar-13 17:35:47

when small medium or large ?? grin