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Is being "ambitious" ; automatically a good thing?

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vampirequeen Fri 26-Apr-13 18:34:30

I think it depends on what your ambition is. My ambition is to step outside the front door without help. An athlete's might be to win a gold medal.

I think the problem comes when people are encouraged to have naked ambition when the goal is everything no matter how many people you tread on or what you have to do to achieve it. Unfortunately naked ambition seems to have become admirable in some quarters and is promoted as a good thing.

Mishap Fri 26-Apr-13 18:01:33

Ambition is for the ambitious! High pressure business jobs have never been my scene.

Contentment is valued higher in my book - but may be the ambitious are content with their lot.

In my career I made a conscious decision not to climb the ladder but to stay "on the ground" and care for my patients/clients rather than pen-pushing and form-filling.

Greatnan Fri 26-Apr-13 17:56:33

Many people, such as my sister, would be deeply unhappy if they had to take a job with a lot of responsibility and stress. We need more Indians than Chiefs.

Nelliemoser Fri 26-Apr-13 17:47:56

We need people who are happy to do a job well without feeling they have to climb to the top of the pile. What a nasty rat race life would be otherwise.

Absent got there with the Macbeth quote before me.

Sel Fri 26-Apr-13 17:45:42

I see ambition as a good thing. I fail to see where we would be without it. It goes without saying that progression in life shouldn't be at the expense of compassion. Surely ambition is the major driving force in many fields: science, business, sport etc. I think the OP is confusing ambition with the pursuit of power or money for their own ends. I would always encourage anyone to aim high and do their best, whatever that might be.

Eloethan Fri 26-Apr-13 17:34:27

Nor anyone else around him!

absent Fri 26-Apr-13 17:18:39

^I have no spur
To prick the sides of my intent, but only
Vaulting ambition, which o'erleaps itself
And falls on the other.^

Naked ambition didn't do Macbeth a lot of good.

Eloethan Fri 26-Apr-13 17:11:30

Governments, and particularly this government, are always praising ambition and implying that it is only through the efforts of ambitious individuals that society will progress.

I believe that ambition is not necessarily a good thing and it is only when it is combined with social awareness/responsibility that it is good for society as a whole. Those individuals who are primarily ambitious to gain power, influence and money can, I think, cause great damage. I would suggest that many of the people who have achieved top positions in government, business, academia, etc., are often described in the media as "ambitious". But very ambitious people can also be very ruthless people who only have "principles" when it is advantageous to do so and who are motivated primarily by self interest.

I'm therefore uncomfortable with the idealizing of ambition and wonder what other people think.