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Greatnan Sun 09-Jun-13 06:43:11

Liz Jones has smuggled five dogs out of Romania to be rehomed in England. Does England need more stray dogs? Would her efforts not have been better directed towards the children in Romanian orphanages?

Nelliemoser Sun 09-Jun-13 19:03:31

It would be far better to fund programs to cull and neuter stray animals in countries where they do not have and cannot afford proper animal welfare, I cannot see that getting a few stray dogs over to the UK will do any good at all. We have quite enough of our own that have to be culled.

The more strays there are the greater the risk of of serious disease such as rabies or toxocariasis, and the untreatable animal mange spreading through a country. That thought will I am sure cause outrage.

Greatnan Sun 09-Jun-13 18:31:54

I think she smuggled them out of the home, but then got all the admin stuff sorted.

granjura Sun 09-Jun-13 18:28:15

Exactly. Nobody wants this terrible disease in the UK. Stupid woman.

Tegan Sun 09-Jun-13 18:23:08

You say she 'smuggled' them out? What about rabies? Shouldn't they be quarantined?

granjura Sun 09-Jun-13 18:12:53

Gracemum - what should be done with those dogs then? I stopped supporting the Dog's Trust (ex Battersea Dog's home) because their motto and principle is 'never to put a healthy dog down'. As an animal lover I totally disagree with this. Those staffies and many dogs, for all sorts of reasons, usually 'baggage' that makes them unreliable and possibly dangerous - will never find a good home.

A lifetime of pacing up and down the kennel, chewing the bars, self-harm is NO WAY TO LOVE A DOG. Much much better, if a dog is not re-homeable, and if no home has been found after 1 year, is to put the dog to sleep humanely. Keeping them locked up for 5, 10, 15 years is the worst possible cruelty imho.

granjura Sun 09-Jun-13 18:08:39

If anyone calls emergency services or goes to A&E as she does - they should be charged, and stiff sums too. Only in the UK could stupid people like her get away with this abuse.

As far as the stray dogs from Rumania, Spain or wherever - this is constantly happening in Switzerland too. All the animal refuges are full to the brim- and each dog brought from abroad and re-homed = one local dog staying in the refuge. When you point this out to people, their reply is 'ah yes, but at least Swiss refuges are decent'! Makes my blood boil.

Agreed that caring for animals and children are not one against t'other though.

Totally agree that it would be far better to humanely cull stray animals that are in poor condition and suffering, and spend money on both a neutering programme. Our daughther is involved in such a programme in Tenerife. Mind you, there the worst culprits for abandoning all kind of animals are expats - who take on lots of pets when they get there and then abandon them when they leave (: BTW all our pets are and have been strays, in the UK and Switzerland, abandoned by cowards and b*******s in the worst possible way. Animal cruelty btw is shown to be very closely related to child cruelty.

gracesmum Sun 09-Jun-13 18:06:24

Grace's holiday home (aka kennels, but we don't actually say the word) also has the pound for Northamptonshire and it is heartbreaking to hear the dogs barking whenever I go there. (They are in a separate part, I hasten to add.) The owners get very depressed at the numbers of abandoned dogs - especially staffies and staffie crosses - and the appalling lack of care for so many dogs. It is lovely when you see a dog being rehomed or even reclaimed after it has strayed, but so many owners dump their dogs at the first hint of expense or inconvenience.angry
NFK - flooded out with greyhounds - oh dear.Have you had a stadium close down recently?
Needless to say, Grace would recommend any and all of them as excellent family pets.

NfkDumpling Sun 09-Jun-13 17:50:45

We don't need any foreign rescued dogs around here - we're flooded out with greyhounds!

petallus Sun 09-Jun-13 16:57:25

Claws out!

Movedalot Sun 09-Jun-13 16:53:53

I do so agree that telling people how generous and kind you are, whether to family, friends or others unknown to you is very unpleasant. It always seems rather needy to me.

merlotgran Sun 09-Jun-13 16:52:47

she cannot be serious?

And why the four year old photo - pre face lift? We all know she never really lived like that.

Greatnan Sun 09-Jun-13 16:34:22

She tells lies and forgets that readers remember them! What do you think about her claim to have gone to A & E to have an ear ring removed, or that she demanded that the police helicopter look for her cat? Is she just trying to annoy as many people as possible because that is what her editor wants.
I think it is great idea to adopt a homeless animal - my daughter always gets rescue dogs - it just seems silly not to start with the ones that are already in England! And I do dislike it when people tell me how generous and kind they are - surely that is better left for others to say!

merlotgran Sun 09-Jun-13 16:27:21

Found it. Liz Jones

Lucky dogs to have gone to good homes. It's a terribly sad situation and I can understand people who have money to spare doing what they can to prevent animal cruelty and alleviate suffering but in the meantime, I wonder who is caring for Liz Jones' menagerie during her frequent absences? She's on the verge of bankruptcy (so she tells us) so surely cannot afford the financial burden that goes with rescuing animals.

Greatnan Sun 09-Jun-13 16:26:02

I just looked at Daily Mail and clicked on columnists. Or you can google her name.

merlotgran Sun 09-Jun-13 15:35:40

Is there a link to the Liz Jones article, Greatnan? I've had a quick look at MOS but can't find anything about stray dogs.

I gather she's living in the Yorkshire Dales now. Exmoor would be heaving a sigh of relief....if they were bothered.

Greatnan Sun 09-Jun-13 13:41:10

I suppose the script writers couldn't think of a better way to end the Paul/Lillian thing! Now perhaps it will become a murder hunt!

gracesmum Sun 09-Jun-13 13:37:39

Well, what about The Archers then? shock (I know there is a separate thread, but felt moved to speak here!)

Bags Sun 09-Jun-13 08:24:12

I hated seeing all the stray dogs and cats in the Thai city I worked in. They were all a bit mangy-looking, and there was the ever-present fear of rabies. I would cull them. There wouldn't have been so many if people sterilised their pets, but they don't. Most probably couldn't afford that.

Interestingly, in the remote northern Thai village I was taken to by a Thai friend (not one of the tourist spots), I didn't see stray dogs. Sometimes I had to look carefully to ascertain whether the small animal I was seeing was a human toddler or a piglet though – all naked and all running about randomly smile

Aka Sun 09-Jun-13 08:23:15

smile

Greatnan Sun 09-Jun-13 08:17:31

Thank you, I enjoy every day - when you are retired, Sunday is no different, except for The Archers Omnibus.

Aka Sun 09-Jun-13 08:15:14

Yes, I hope you enjoy your sunny Sunday smile

Greatnan Sun 09-Jun-13 08:01:47

The sun rose this morning. Any comments? grin

Aka Sun 09-Jun-13 07:57:53

I think if Liz Jones chooses to do this then good luck to her. It's her choice. If someone find her column amusing then that's their choice to read it too. Its not my cup of tea but then i believe in 'live and let live' as i mentioned on another, very civilised, thread.
Simples!

Lilygran Sun 09-Jun-13 07:52:28

I think you're right, MiceElf. Happy Sunday!

MiceElf Sun 09-Jun-13 07:48:02

Ah, not a lady I have encountered. I like my Sundays to be peaceful and I need to keep my BP low, so I think, given what you say, that I shan't seek her out.