An odious woman!

Yes, Tegan - an indelible stain.

Still reckon I'd've made my mark on the world if mum had called me Heliotrope .

True, Ana What macho redblooded US film star wants to be called Marion? He might be taken for a female tennis player. (One who could probably whup him, I daresay!)

They may have changed their names when they decided to become actors, of course, Tegan - like John Wayne did!

I know when we were going through baby names for the grandchildren we were put off by certain names belonging to people that we didn't like. Had a phase of liking the name Kai and then Wayne Rooney called his son Kai, [although I still love the name]. The thing is, a name is more than just a name...it encapsulates the hopes and aspirations of the parents and possibly shapes you as a person. I was chatting to a girl at work about films [I'm her film guru ] and she mentioned lots of young actors and actresses that I'd never heard of, but I pointed out they had to be stars with names like theirs.

The S.O. just told me about this and I had to snigger a bit when he said she'd mentioned the name Chardonnay as I said I'd probably have to agree with her . I'd better read the whole article I think. I don't watch The Apprentice so I don't know who she is.

I think aspirations are a good thing - we all want what is best for our children, but this woman's idea of "what is best" is merely a reinforcement of her own snobbishness and outdated class consciousness. Just because children are called Tarquin or Araminta does not ensure that their upbringing or parents' values are our own does it? Terribly posh parents might take exception to "India" "Poppy" or "Max" becasue they are not called ffortescue-Ponsonby-Smyth!
Yes the cliches exist - Wayne and Wanetta Slob and Tim Nice-But-Dim but anyone with half a brain has to be able to see beyond that. And as for saying that mothers screech "Whine (Wayne) " across the playground that is frankly ridiculous, in my teaching career there were just as many naughty middle class kids as working class kids - if one could tell the difference. She has clearly never seen that hilaroous YOutube clip of "Fenton" in Richmond Park. (OK a dog, but a very middle class dog )

There are many, many parents who have aspirations for their offspring but this is something more.

I think the thread is about a rude and intolerant woman Nonu

I wonder what on earth Kate Hopkins aspires to for her children? To be ostracised?

Why? When you say you "have to", Nonu, are you saying it is some sort of compulsion?
I think this is an interesting thread - the class consciousness of aspirational parents, perhaps?

JO8 , I have to

What a joke, she didn't even see the irony of naming her kids India and Poppy. I do hate some of the names kids get saddled with For example Trinity and Ebony [for a little white girl] but would not have stopped my children from mixing with them. This woman is a crashing snob

Greatnan, you are a daft old trout.

GERALDINE!!!!!!

Yes, until you try to create another diversion. Why do you do it , Nonu - it is really not nice to hijack a thread when people are posting sensible comments? And you force other people to answer you, which could easily embarrass them. Of course, you are not the only person who does this but I think the other culprit has seen the light.

Still, it back on track now !

tee hee.

Back to the subject .... The third child is Maximilian

Well I was taught (not that I always took much notice) that if you haven't got anything to say - don't say anything!

Gracesmum - you have spotted the tactic which is often used by one member when she doesn't feel able to add anything useful to a thread. There is no reason why she can't start another thread if she wants to discuss something else. And that would be more courteous, I think.
Now wait for the usual suspects to leap in!

Monty will never be the same again. Always used to be associated with Montgomery(shire), I suppose

No? However not? Funny how those and such as those never call their children "Liechtenstein", "UAE" "Montenegro" or "Somalia."

India and Poppy, it seems. Don't know about the third one. Oh, and India is not geographical, according to Odious Woman.

a death knell [tired fingers] emoticon

Whatever - it seems to have sounded death knell for this particular thread. For what it is worth, she is a MONSTER isn't she? "In my legal practice I don't know any Charmaines (or whatever)" - Oo-er missus!! Couldn't take the whole interview - did she say what are her little dears called - Araminta and Tarquin??

Or changing the subject?