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disabled will NOT be exempt from 'bedroom tax'

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ninathenana Tue 30-Jul-13 13:20:24

I don't agree with this, I find the decision sad.

DD has a friend with 2 boys under 10 one of whom has complex needs. There is no way him and his brother could share a room.
This is just one example. You must all know someone who will be affected.
angry sad

Galen Mon 05-Aug-13 22:27:41

Actually he's not! He is a richer version of the old git next door!

gillybob Mon 05-Aug-13 22:17:05

Oh Frank I don't believe you really are that selfish. The so called needier members of society" as you describe them are not "needy" by choice are they? Are you suggesting that you shouldn't pay any tax or that you should be able to choose where yourtax goes? What would you do with the money? Save it up so you can examine your bank book and count the noughts ? You are truly unbelievable.

Ana Mon 05-Aug-13 22:07:43

Eh? confused

Galen Mon 05-Aug-13 21:56:02

Neanderthals did have tools. They are not as delicate as other humanoids. They may well have been as or even more intelligent than us. There is growing evidence from DNA studies that they probably interbred with home sapiens.

nanaej Mon 05-Aug-13 21:14:32

Is it worse to be ignored by a group of people or to be verbally challenged? That is the big Twitter issue. A divide in opinion in how to deal with trolls. I always advise children not to respond to other kids who are deliberately goading. Obviously varied views on how to manage this.

Ariadne Mon 05-Aug-13 21:08:10

We have a choice. I don't see what all the fuss is about. But if we are being baited, we are rising to it beautifully!

petallus Mon 05-Aug-13 20:59:26

I've heard of this and the effect can be deadly.

In fact I am reading a book about abusive behaviour in relationships and 'ignoring' is thought to be one of the more serious forms of abusive as it saps the spirit.

granjura Mon 05-Aug-13 20:53:10

Jean Auel, the Bear Clan, great book.

Apparently some primitive tribes still use ignoring as a form of permanent punishment and exclusion from the clan.

petallus Mon 05-Aug-13 20:49:32

Gransnet is so broadening; I'm interested in Neanderthals now. Can anyone recommend a good book?

petallus Mon 05-Aug-13 20:48:37

I've just been looking at online stuff about Neanderthals. Even anthropologists have to do a lot of surmising as the scanty evidence available only 'suggests', it is not conclusive.

But seems Neanderthals ate mostly meat, spent most of the day trying to find enough food to feed their children and so did not have time to invent tools and weapons, tended their sick and women hunted with men.

And all this from a few bones and a bit of cave art!

Galen Mon 05-Aug-13 20:41:08

There is hmm

Galen Mon 05-Aug-13 20:40:45

Jean Auel is a novelist not an anthropologist. Although I enjoyed her books they are full of surmises for which their if no evidence!

petallus Mon 05-Aug-13 20:34:19

Isn't it called being sent to Coventry?

granjura Mon 05-Aug-13 20:33:52

Anthropologists seem to have ascertain this somehow. Very well described in the Bear Clan series by Jean Auel.

absent Mon 05-Aug-13 20:30:21

That's very interesting. How do you know how Neanderthal society organised itself granjura? Presumably such action would not leave any physical evidence and wouldn't Neanderthals be too early for written evidence?

granjura Mon 05-Aug-13 20:04:48

That was the way used by Neanderthals actually- if someone behaved in a way the clan didn't like, they would totally ignore them, as if they were dead.

I think nowadays it would be called bullying. Not much further forwards then..

Sel Mon 05-Aug-13 20:02:04

'Unkind and unnecessary' Ana? An understatement IMO.

Ana Mon 05-Aug-13 19:35:40

Or 'colluding to exclude'. Still unkind and unnecessary.

Ana Mon 05-Aug-13 19:31:02

I suppose I meant 'ganging up and deliberately ignoring' then, which is what seems to have been suggested.

nanaej Mon 05-Aug-13 19:29:05

Ana I am sure we do that all the time. I know I do if I don't find a post interesting, if I feel we have no comment to make, or if I do not want to rise to 'bait' wink

granjura Mon 05-Aug-13 19:18:03

Maybe that tactic could work for others too ...

Ana Mon 05-Aug-13 19:05:06

Besides, it would be very rude to deliberately ignore a member's posts.

Ariadne Mon 05-Aug-13 19:02:46

It is hard, GN to ignore him; if he's real he is unbelievable, and needs to be challenged.

granjura Mon 05-Aug-13 18:58:48

Wow GN - amazing how events can look VERY different from the other side..
best if I keep quite or I'll truly burst... OMG (:

petallus Mon 05-Aug-13 18:09:15

But greatnan I don't want him to go away grin

It's all grist to the mill!