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feeling proud to be British

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seasider Sun 11-Aug-13 18:58:27

been to Blackpool air show today and had a lump in my throat when the Battle of Britain flight came over. I was so impressed with the power of the Typhoon and the sheer skill of the Red Arrows. It made me very proud to be British and if I did not have to work could do it all again tomorrow!smile

thatbags Wed 11-Sept-13 07:19:55

A Scot, or someone living in .scotland would say they were going to Dumfries. Or they'd say they were going to Galloway.

Just as I don't say I live in Argyll & Bute. I don't live on Bute (which is an island for those who may not know); I live in Argyll.

Dumfries & Galloway and Argyll & Bute are regional council areas rathers than discrete places. Dumfries, Galloway, Argyll, Bute are all separate geographical areas.

I think southerners (including Welsh people) mentioning that they are going to Dumfries and/or Galloway would usually add "in south west Scotland" unless they knew their audience would have that knowledge already.

Tegan Wed 11-Sept-13 00:02:11

.. I don't know where Dumfries or Galloway are without looking on a map, so if someone said they were going there for a holiday I would expect that person to possibly explain to me that they were going to Scotland, and then elaborate as to whereabouts in Scotland.

Tegan Tue 10-Sept-13 23:58:30

I think when we say where we're going to go to we use the place name that makes it most clear to the person we're talking to. And [I may be wrong in this] but, if I say to someone I'm going to Scotland for a holiday [or if they say it to me] the conversation then goes on to 'where in Scotland'. I spoke to someone at work today and said I'd been to Berwick and she asked where Berwick was so I had to explain it was a Border town [even though she'd recently been to Edinburgh on the train]. If I was going to Anglesey I'd say 'Anglesey' not 'Wales' because I think most people know it quite well. If I was talking to my ex in laws, who live on the Welsh Border and I was going to a place in Wales I would name the place because they'd know where it was, but if I was talking to my neighbour I would start off by saying I was going to Wales, and then elaborate. Am I making any sense? [I know what I mean; I think confused].

absent Tue 10-Sept-13 22:40:25

Paris Texas, Paris Illinois, Paris Kentucky, while not exactly innumerable, may justify saying Paris, France, but Vatican City, Italy? As opposed to what?

Galen Tue 10-Sept-13 21:08:24

Moter? I used to visit my MOTHER.

Galen Tue 10-Sept-13 21:07:56

Tegan I did use to say I was going to visit my moter in Perth Scotland, as it could be confused with Perth on Australia

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 21:05:23

Sorry, nonu, that was to greatnan. Crossed posts, and probably purposes too.

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 21:04:27

This one will run and run.

Why am I feeling so wicked?

Nonu Tue 10-Sept-13 21:04:08

In fact 2 smile s .
I feel so on top of the world !!

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 21:04:01

gn grin

Nonu Tue 10-Sept-13 21:01:57

smile

Greatnan Tue 10-Sept-13 21:00:55

Thanks for explaining that, Nonu. Now I think I will have a bowl of Rice Krispies.

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 21:00:05

As might be expected.

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 20:59:48

Yes, I know, nonu. They have it right for Americans, but when European in Europe says Paris, they mean the original one, in Fance.

Nonu Tue 10-Sept-13 20:56:43

The reason Americans say Paris , France is because there are innumerable Cities in Northern America called Paris

So, people snigger at them , but they have it right !!

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 20:50:30

Don't forget about the Stafforshire Newcastle as well, merlot wink

merlotgran Tue 10-Sept-13 20:41:14

My grandsons have just been to Newcastle.....No. Not THAT one.

Northern Ireland!

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 20:40:09

I have never said "I holiday". I only use holiday as a noun. Just saying.

Anniebach Tue 10-Sept-13 20:39:17

Ever wished you had just shut up lol

Anniebach Tue 10-Sept-13 20:36:31

Knew it wouldn't clear things up with some.

Many - not all - people say ' I holiday in Wales' I have never heard anyone in Wales say to me ' I holiday in England'

Ana, you got it lol,

Tegan, I have enjoyed a couple of walking holidays in Dumfries and Galloway

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 20:25:27

Ah, I think I get it now.

Ana Tue 10-Sept-13 20:24:16

(Crossed posts with Tegan and thatbags)

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 20:24:02

I'm not sure what your point is tho' Anniebach. When I had a holiday in Anglesey, I said I was going to Anglesey. Wales was understood, just as England is when you mention Lincolnshire or Devon, etc, or Scotland if you mention Wester Ross or Angus, etc.

Ana Tue 10-Sept-13 20:23:10

I knew what you meant, Anniebach, and I agree that there is a tendency for the English to say 'Oh, I love Wales, we go there on holiday every year...' whereas no Welsh person would say the same about England. They may do about Scotland, of course, or Ireland...wink

thatbags Tue 10-Sept-13 20:21:10

Scottish people say they are going to England – if they do. Or "across the border".

I don't think I'll make a point of saying I'm going to visit my daughter in Derbyshire, England though. It sounds too American, like Paris, France.