My Cardiff pension.

Pembrokeshire (and Gower) are divided N/S along language lines. The normans took the best land in the south I think. So S Pembs and S Gower are predominantly English speaking and the northern areas very Welsh. They probably look down on each other, hence pride in not speaking Welsh. There is a bit of similar thing going on here on Anglesey. The Normans built Beaumaris castle and relocated the Welsh speakers in the area to a new borough on a sandy windswept corner, now known as Newborough. Beaumaris to this day is less Welsh speaking than the rest of the island is my impression.

No I am not Welsh brought up around where Heathrow is now and then lived in Surrey - but DH no.2 is and I have lived in Wales for 23 years - DD moved to SWales when her DH was promoted and as DS was in Uni there I went too. She has settled very happily. As you probably remember we sold our house there last year and decamped to this smaller French house - which I wish had elastic sides.
I found Welsh a very hard language to learn - had to go on a long course when I was teaching as all Primary children were required to do some. I never really got to grips with it but do understand some odd words.

Are you Welsh Bez? My father was (North Wales) his family were Welsh speaking and proud of it (why not?). My MIL is from Pembrokeshire and is extremely proud of the fact that she doesn't speak a word of Welsh

In fact if I had a gas driven griddle set up outside today in the Seafood Festival I could be raking it in...

Ye Bez, Welsch cakes best consumed straight off the griddle. They are not at all the same after an hour. Swansea market you can buy em freshly done.

If I had put brain in gear soon enough I would have only needed to do one post

I agree one is never enough! They are tossed I. Caster sugar after being cooked.

Not quite but similar When

We used to buy our Welsh Cakes from the Snowdrop Bakery in Haverford West Pembrokeshire many moons ago. I now make my own and cook them on a cast iron griddle. Be warned, one is never enough

Are they the same as griddle scones, Bez?

I will ask DiL to do some or you all later.

Welsh Cakes are flat - a dough is made with dried fruit and spices and rolled out like pastry and cut out with pastry cutters. Cooked on top of the stove on a thick bake stone if you have one or a thick based frying pan. The ones you buy are never as good as home made - my DiL is fab at doing them - the best bought ones I have had are from. M and S.

You're right there, Moved. I keep to family and a couple of close friends, having seen some disasters happen on Facebook. One of my daughter's friends was carpeted and warned at work because of some of her outrageous posts and photos.

Movedalot I enjoy Facebook. Like you, I choose my friends.

I don't understand the fuss about Facebook, mine is a great place to be and I have never experienced any of the nastiness I've seen on here. The difference must be that I choose my Fb friends and they are a great, funny, supportive bunch! (As are most but not all on here.

On the contrary annodomini. Gransnet is a much better place now than it was at the beginning. Now it has a wider range of posters, rather than those who who came straight from Mumsnet. Much improved now I think.

dustyangel Have a fun this evening. Lidl's malt is as good as their gin [in our opinion]

I've just messed up completely and put my nice long post in the wrong place. It should be in Soops Kitchen obviously.

What a lovely place your kitchen is Soop. A haven of........well I was going to say peace and tranquillity but that lot were a bit noisy last night. I brought a couple of bottles of gin for later, they're from Lidl's but you don't notice the difference with mixers.
I can't stop long I've got to iron my white trousers for tonight. I'm going to the local town's White Night. They haven't had one for the last couple of years due to cuts in finance. Tonight they're pushing the boat out and there will all sorts of live entertainment, anything from high wire artists to classical music with a white grand piano. All in the open air with everyone dressed in white.
I 've never had Welsh cake before so I'd better just try a piece before I go.

I think that it is very sad for people to get so fed up with the negativity and nit picking that they feel they have better things to do rather than be the subject of unkind posts on a forum and so leave.

Most threads seem to be kind, helpful and/or amusing too. A few threads appear to be disrupted by a minority of posters who are either not very good at debating and so resort to personal sniping and tit for tatting or deliberately want to cause bother by stirring the proverbial!

I have looked at the guidelines and they are clear. Surely we can stick to them??

A bonnie bright morning to you all. I trust that you slept well and are ready to face the challenges of a new day.
Elegran
I always turn off my 'puter at 5.30-ish. I usually log on about mid morning. This means that I haven't a clue as to the why's and wherefores of all the kafuffle on this particular post. Therefore, no comment.
I'm off to browse the Nature forum. After which, I'll meet up with my pals in the kitchen. Coffee percolating as I type. and maybe a slice of Welsh cake.

Yes, Gransnet has it's own culture, more concerned and caring, quicker to object to abuse because we know the likely consequences. Mumsnet is informative and up to speed wth lots of issues, but quite ruthless at times when doubt is expressed about relationships, particularly where ex-partners are concerned. Facebook is a minefield - especially when a few have been consumed!

Good morning, happy campers. I hope you had a nice time raiding Soops larder.

I went and watched Diana Rigg as Mrs Bradbury and fantasised about her relationship with her chauffeur. I can't drive, do you think I should get a chauffeur? One like George?

We mustn't let GN get like Fbook ! (Fbook is ok but does have it's social problems) I think we are all a pretty happy bunch overall..time for

galen, you're the only one who has a cat in hell's chance of understanding what I'm talking about when I go into Lady Barebow mode!! I need you!

yours sincerely,
LadyBarebowBags