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Year 3 primary school reading

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Mamie Thu 14-Nov-13 15:54:54

I would expect that most of this would be taught / assessed by the teacher in guided reading sessions in literacy lessons. This will involve small groups of children working with the teacher on a shared text. Individual reading is more likely to be with TA or parent helper in Year 3. It depends, of course, on the level of fluency of the child.

Elegran Thu 14-Nov-13 15:41:18

I am with Bags that reading is for comprehension and following a story or instructions, not for whether the words on the page can be converted into the right sounds. It is possible to read a page out loud in a foreign language that you only have a smattering of, and make it sound quite good, but have not the faintest idea what it was about.

When they read for pleasure, they don't need to say the words to enjoy the story. In fact, reading quickly is not possible if you vocalise it all, you go at the speed of your mouth, not your mind.

To check that they have understood what they have read - how about a game which requires them to follow written instructions or solve a puzzle. Or following a simple written recipe?

Aka Thu 14-Nov-13 15:07:27

How do you think a child's reading and comprehension can be monitored then bags?

thatbags Thu 14-Nov-13 14:40:44

By Year 3 some children will be very competent readers. I don't think they need to be 'heard' reading aloud very often.

thatbags Thu 14-Nov-13 14:38:36

Which is not a judgement on a child's intelligence, just an observation of how well they read – or not, as the case may be. Not talking about causes of difficulty in reading, just how easy it is to pick up when a child can read relatively easily.

thatbags Thu 14-Nov-13 14:36:07

I think I'm arguing that reading can be monitored more subtly than having every kid read aloud to the teacher or TA. Happy for people to disagree but that is what I think based on experience. It's easy to pick out the good and not-so-good readers at Cubs, for instance, during activities which require even a tiny amount of reading.

thatbags Thu 14-Nov-13 14:34:09

You can see whether they apply what they have read, tegan, e.g. if there is a written instruction which is carried out correctly, I think you can assume the child could read it and, just as implrtantly, understood it. Conversely, if a child does appear to understand a written instruction, not being able to read it may be one of the reasons.

There are other clues as well. With my kids it was just getting on with reading by themselves for the fun of it.

Do teachers know which parents listen to their children reading or are read to/look at books with parents? That must help where they do know. And if they don't know (or fear) that a child doesn't look at books at home, it seems onlt reasonable to give those children more help than others if they are struggling with reading.

Tegan Thu 14-Nov-13 14:31:43

Also, a lot of highly intelligent children can be dyslexic and it doesn't get picked up until they get much older because they find ways round it.

Aka Thu 14-Nov-13 14:10:12

Children's reading needs to be monitored regularly to check they are reading suitable book, at their own level of reading ability and understanding. If he's not being heard read then the school needs to be asked why not.

Tegan Thu 14-Nov-13 13:34:01

I don't understand how a childs level of reading can be ascertained if the child doesn't read out loud in an individual way confused.

ninathenana Thu 14-Nov-13 13:16:10

I spent 3-4 years going into what had been my children's school to listen to a different class read I would spend half a day in each class. I would work my way through the register regardless of ability. I was however asked by one or two teachers to concentrate on the less able if time was short. The school's policy was that each child should read to an adult on a daily basis whether that be parent, guardian, TA, teacher or volunteer. Unfortunately I would say this quite often didn't happen.

Atqui Thu 14-Nov-13 13:05:43

I retired 4 years ago so things may have changed, but the emphasis was on group reading rather than individual reading then, where a small group have the same book to discuss/ read with the teacher once a week. However , the other day I had a nightmare that I hadn't 'heard' anyone in my class read all year!!

thatbags Thu 14-Nov-13 10:50:28

Reading aloud is a different skill from reading to oneself. It is easy to tell if a child is managing to read what he needs to read (and enjoy!) without actually hearing him read aloud.

penguinpaperback Thu 14-Nov-13 10:40:44

My little GS is also a free reader and can choose his own chapter books. At the moment he is the only boy free reading with approx 4-5 girls.
If I've got this correct they seem to be able to choose a book, (which the school library has several copies of) and then take turns reading the book aloud in class. A sort of book club. They then take their own copy home to read. I think daily homework is 10-20 minutes reading at home plus some maths. I'm muddled by the new (to me) class years but GS will be 7yrs old in the new year. I think GS has helped slower readers in the class too. The school follows the international curriculum rather than the national.

Tegan Thu 14-Nov-13 10:37:38

My daughter [a teacher herself] has had to take her son's school to task for not giving him the correct reading book for his level of reading..sometimes being given a book he'd read a year before. They do have a reading diary where the teacher writes how well the child reads each particular book, though. I'll ask my grandson tonight what happens about reading to teachers [he's in his third year as well].

annodomini Thu 14-Nov-13 10:17:26

I would have thought it was normal at least to make sure the child was reading at his/her correct level, glass. I know that my GD, who was a very profiicient reader when she reached year 3 was a free reader and also helped the slower readers in the class.

glassortwo Thu 14-Nov-13 10:04:14

My DGS is in year 3 primary, he is a free reader and reads every night at home with me, but he mentioned last night that he does not read with his teacher and hasnt done in this school year, does anyone know if that is usually the case in year 3?

It has been an unsettled year as the teacher who was due to take the class unexpectedly went off sick 2 weeks before the term start and the school were left in the position of not having enough time to employ someone at such short notice, so the student who completed her final placement with the class in July was retained on a temp contract, but there have been some problems in the class, now a mixed class of 35. 6 children were held back from the year above and there have been problems in the class and measures have now been put in place.
The first reading books DGS came home with in September were bands below and something he had read in January last year, so just wanted to check if it was normal procedure not to listen once they reach a certain reading ability.