Quite right, rosequartz. And when I describe myself as a European, to take one of Krishnamurti's examples, I am not separating myself from the rest of mankind; I am identifying myself within a (probably temporary in the scheme of things) category of mankind with no thought of violence towards any other category. Indeed, I can identify myself within so many categories - atheist, male, Anglo-Welsh, British, Londoner, Oxbridge educated, etc.etc. that if Km is correct I must be in danger of being violent towards myself.