How much are you worth ?

The first two LPs I bought were Manfred Mann and Georgie Fame - very bluesy. Everyone else was buying Freddie and The Dreamers and Gerry And The Pacemakers. I thought I was sooooooo cool.

Funny when you think about it but Jagger and Robert Plant have always been archetypal [sp] sexy lead singers but both of them are, in a way, quite camp when they speak. Brian Jones, according to Keith Richards book, was a horrible man, especially towards women [but I agree about how gorgeous he was].

....my ex is going to see Robert Plant play with his new band later in the year; I'm very envious.

Oh yes Georgie Fame and Paul Jones were gorgeous too!
Although I didn't appreciate it at the time, I now think Roy Orbison's music was fantastic and unique, his voice amazing too.
merlot I'd forgotten about that plagiarism thing!

Soutra I've never had a price, I've always been free to a good home.

That's funny, janea, at the time I too didn't appreciate Roy Orbison's music - I think it was all wrapped up in my feeling that he looked 'square'. Any singer or group simply had to look hip and trendy for me to like their music. Now, I think his music was absolutely brilliant. Later, of course, my husband and I both loved the Travelling Wilbury's - fantastic mix of talent in that combo.

But I am a lady.

I think it's just as well Pompa left this thread in disgust disappointment - it really has gone way off theme now

There's a frequently repeated documentary on BBC4 about Jeff Lynne -another talented musician. It features his collaboration with Roy Orbison in The Travelling Wilburys. Great music.

I loved ELO.

I remember, at the age of 14, playing Georgie Fame's Bonnie and Clyde over and over until our next door neighbour said he'd come round and pull the needle out of the Dansette if I didn't turn it off. Mum took the 7" away. I played Daydream Believer instead! Davy Jones. (Sigh)!

Thanks for reminding me of Georgie Fame, Bonnie and Clyde - I've just played it from youtube

It's happened again!

Roy Orbison is my favourite singer of all time. No one else comes close. I saw him once on the same bill as the early Beatles. Totally stunning.

I think that Roy Orbison has stood the test of time with his music, it still sounds great, because he had a really good voice.
I still like some Beatles songs, but not all, and ditto that with the Stones.
I used to be 'very taken' as they used to say by Eric Burden of The Animals
( The House Of The Rising Sun.)Also Paul Jones.

Paul Jones still going strong. The Blues Band has just been to Durham Gala, but I missed it. Tickets had sold out before I realised it.

We do seem to confuse 'wealth' with 'worth' these days.

Having had a religious education I was taught that we are all equal in the sight of God, a teaching I accepted than and accept still. This means that we are all of the same intrinsic worth regardless of our wealth.

To continue the religious analogies. I was very impressed by the parable of the king who gave his servants a sum of money to look after and rewarded those who invested wisely and punished the one who hoarded. This was always interpreted to me as being that we are all endowed with different abilities and skills and the question is about whether you use these abilities to the both best advantage of others. I have more respect for a person of limited talents who uses them to their full than a highly talented person who skates through life doing well for minimum effort.

Bill and Melinda Gates, admittedly, considerably wealthier than Paul McCartney, who have already in life channelled most of their wealth into a charitable foundation that is funding research into a cure/vaccination for malaria, HIV/Aids and other intractable diseases are in my estimation more worthy of respect for what they do than is Paul McCartney.

Having had a religious education I was taught that we are all equal in the sight of God, a teaching I accepted than and accept still. This means that we are all of the same intrinsic worth regardless of our wealth

Yes yes yes!

Well soon - as an atheist I think that type of belief was very helpful in getting people to accept their lot in this life as everything would be ok in the next one. Part of the conspiracy of the capitalist theory of social control so beloved of us lefties. It's like that awful verse in 'all things bright and beautiful' which goes something like ' the rich man in his castle, the poor man at his gate, God made thrm high and lowly and honours each estate'

You don't have to be any kind of 'lefty' to have rumbled that one, Granny Twice!

And let's face it, "All Things Bright and Beautiful" is pure Victorian sentimentality, from a time when you were expected to ;know your place' - and accept it, because everything would be so much better when you were dead! Ha!

Yes exactly - but not sentimentality, capitalist conspiracy to keep the unwashed in their place. Same as caste system!

Question (serious) are left wing people more likely to be aetheists? I only know ( as in friends) one very right wing person and he is religious. With my other friends, all left of centre, about 90% are atheist - but not a very scientific sample I admit

Grannytwice I cannot get over that awful verse either although it has been expunged from most modern hymn books.

It sums up everything bad about the attitude of the church and state in the mid Victorian times. "Doff your hat to the Squire stuff".

I have quoted that one more than once on here.

Heck. You are making me think tonight.
Last post, no idea whatsoever. I have never thought about it. Politics is hardly ever discussed at our church. I probably know that a couple are tories and a couple are liberals. That is as much as I know.

It is a long time since we have sung "All things bright and beautiful". I would have to go and look it up, and I have nicer things to do tonight!

And no idea about capitalist theory either.
Are you, as FlicketyB says, confusing wealth with worth?
She, I think I am right in saying is essentially talking about self esteem, nothing to do with monetary wealth.
tbh, I am not thinking overly clearly right now, I may have a better answer in the morning.

The words are actually 'and ordered their estate', to be pedantic.

And of course we are all of the same intrinsic worth regardless of our wealth. What's wrong with saying that? Or do politics have to come into everything?

post in answer to GrannyTwice.