Whose effigy?

Arms dealers always find a way.

I note he wants to sell the arms to them...ever the capitalist.

I am sure there are ways and means for arms dealers, Jalima.

that would be really helpful.

so - how does he propose getting in arms when they are struggling to get in food and medical supplies?
I do know some people who are trying to get in essentials like those at the moment, taking their life into their hands. Just waiting and praying that they are safe.

Definitely IDS. He wants to start World War 3.

www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2016/10/iain-duncan-smith-aleppos-suffering-will-only-stop-when-someone-shoots-down-a-russian-plane.html

He thinks we should sell arms to the Syrians in Aleppo so they can shoot down Russian planes.

No Gunpowder for him , Vamp [ evil grin]

Usually they took pity on the person to be burned and killed them first by either garroting them or tying a bag of gunpowder around their necks. There are gruesome stories of the victims trying to bend into the flames to ignite the gunpowder. Of course they didn't feel sorry for some so those poor beggars had to bear it all.

That, of course, is totally different from burning an effigy. Mind you we could make an exception in the case of IDS lol. Now the question is should we let him have the gunpowder lol?

By the way:

Make sure there are no hedgehogs in your bonfire before you light it, they may have thought it was a good place to hibernate!

Well, as some of our laws go back to the middle ages, I don't see why. Burning at the stake was commonplace then.

Well, I do think they should be deceased before they are burnt.
It's very cruel otherwise.

You mean I can't REALLY burn Ian Duncan Smith? well I am not playing anymore, spoilsports

Pinning a tail on a donkey is a children's game and is not the re-enactmnet of something appalling that happened in real life.

An effigy is a representation of a person and, in Guy Fawkes' case, it was a real person. Although I can remember making guys when I was a child, once I understood what it represented, I thought it was horrible. In my opinion, it's in the same category as the sort of gory and sadistic representations that are seen at Halloween, which I also find very unpleasant.

I think I have a reasonably good sense of humour but I don't find the idea of burning someone - however vile I might think they are - amusing.

So can the effigy represent anybody?
Is anyone alive or dead fair game?
Eg a person from religious faith?
I don't think you can pick some + not others.
I have a sense of humour
but still feel uncomfortable.
Even though there maybe people I dislike, they are still someone's son, daughter, brother sister etc.

Oooooooo......look out Annie' spirits are stirring.

note to those with a humour bypass it was a joke

kitty, just after posting my dog jumped on the sofa and at the same time jumped on my iPad - badly cracked glass, nooooo I didn't stab her ?

You'd have to be braver than me to try that Annie. We are a sadistic lot.

So playing pin the tail on the donkey is realy a desire to stab an animal!

Sigh! No one is doing any burning never mind reacting Wicker Man!

When you burn an effigy you are wishing death on that person. Not very nice, I think. Take that to an extreme measure and you have "Wicker Man".

Of course it's not burning a real person, and I never thought about witchcraft particularly ( not in connection with Nov 5th) but find the effigy thing disturbing none the less. Some of us are allowed to feel that if we like, so although I know it's a light hearted thread, I simply answered what I feel.

And there's me thinking this was a light hearted thread!

Burning an effigy is not burning a person , those who think it witchcraft never attend a Nov 5th bonfire night?

Burning effigies goes back into the depths of time. It's nothing to do with witchcraft or burning real people.

I feel like rosesarered and cherrytree. I don't feel comfortable with the notion of burning anyone.

Sometimes witchraft would come in handy